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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 100 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's precisely because the norms demarcating gender are so arbitrary that they must be policed so ruthlessly

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Can we fundraiser to put this on billboards everywhere?

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[–] KittyBobo@hexbear.net 85 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Reminds me of how weird my mom was when I said I wanted a strawberry cake for my birthday because it was pink. I just liked strawberry, I didn't care what color it was.

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

could she just like... make it like blue razzberry flavor but with strawberry?

[–] KittyBobo@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I dunno, just one of those early things that didn't make sense to me as a kid. But then I did turn out to be kinda gay and genderqueer but I don't think pink frosting had anything to do with it. Or maybe it did 🤔

[–] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're putting chemicals in the pink frosting to turn the boys gay

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[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

truly wild the extent to which people are policed on innocuous things like this. I remember when kids at school decided that liking bears was girly and boys could only like reptiles

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[–] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 74 points 2 years ago (6 children)

yea

I had some relatives question a woodland theme to toys and bedding for a baby boy. Lots of green and brown, plus some snails, rabbits, deer and shit.

CW huntingIn the end they rationalized it by saying they guess he can be a hunter. Now I'm wondering how many of the hunters I know just want to go camping but feel like it's too feminine if they aren't trying to kill anything

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 79 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fellas, is it gay to appreciate nature?

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

fellas is it gay to experience joy

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[–] Futterbinger@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Most hunters I know just wanna hang out in a cabin and drink beers with the bros. Same goes for ice fishing.

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

My dad was a hunter for my entire childhood and he never shot a thing. He just liked having an excuse to enjoy the mid-late autumn wilderness.

spoilerIt was actually nice going on a couple trips with him and sitting in a completely silent forest early in the morning, quiet enough to hear the snow falling

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Something something survival something something wilderness idk

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[–] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 74 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I used to work for a sports merchandise store and I regularly had women ask me if it was okay for their husbands to wear teal jerseys.

Like

  1. Your husband will not explode if he puts on a Jaguars or Mariners jersey.

  2. I love that my queer ass is the authority on cis-het masculinity. Like, yeah dude, teal is a manly color now. In fact, no one is talking about it, but so is fuchsia. Have you considered buying him a breast cancer awareness jersey?

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The San Jose Sharks are gay as hell, apparently.

[–] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hockey men make me feel gay as hell, so there might be something there

BUt also!

San Jose has no fucking buisness having a hockey team. There's no ice. A hockey team on the west coast is just a flex that your city has at least 1 billionaire from the Midwest living in it.

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[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 62 points 2 years ago

Cisgenderism must be eradicated. sicko-hippie

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago (5 children)

do boy like coloring

This one seems weird even by cis people standards

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

the standards are pretty weird and contradictory especially around the edges

for example it is unmasculine to be too educated but also "girls can't do maths". Women can't learn fractions but must be excelent cooks

both institutional sexism against female artists and "is it ok for a boy to like colouring"

for everything else the gender binary standards are they are also self contradictory gibberish

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[–] Phish@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

Yeah that just sounds like somebody who doesn't know anything about kids

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

creativity, colors, joy not immediately connected with violence, it just all seems a bit sus

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[–] BrezhnevsEyebrows@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This shit makes me so mad, even more so because I know that if I ever raised a son I couldnt stop other people from conditioning him this way

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (2 children)

most of the bad ideas a young boy raised in a non toxic household is going to be exposed to are probably going to come from other boys their age. Shortly followed by the internet and then tv

providing a space where they can be vulnerable at home is from my childhood experience at least pretty helpful

[–] BrezhnevsEyebrows@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Very true. I remember when i was a small boy i used to let my mom paint my nails because I thought it was cool. Then at the park one of the other boys sneered "only girls paint their nails" and I never wore nail polish again. But I doubt that behavior like this is innate in children

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When I went to pick up a family friend's son from daycare a couple months ago, some of the boys had nail polish. They weren't being teased over it either. The kids are all right.

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[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

no they learned it from elsewhere in society. What I am saying is that you can't just remove a boy (or girl) from society and the negative ideas it will teach them. At least not completely

[–] BrezhnevsEyebrows@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know. Which makes me sad, because I want to protect kids from the harm the patriarchy inflicts on them. Shits just fucked, and like you said a good home environment where they can express themselves is really the best I can do on an individual level

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As you mentioned the internet, specifically YouTube is really precarious for falling down any number of incredibly brainstormed rabbit holes.

I feel crazy wondering if the kids dressing up as Disney characters while their parents film are about to launch into a Prager u lecture.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I worked at a GameStop briefly. One time had a lady customer ask me if we could exchange a game in a Wii box for a PS2 box since her son in the military might think the white box is too feminine

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[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Oh yeah yeah you're right Sharon, play food is for women and the gay, OK here." drops loaded snubnosed revolver on the counter

[–] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That gun is too short for boys, it's small and girly and gay smuglord

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[–] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay but can we talk about hot pink 9mm pistols? When you want to kill but you want to he femme about it

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[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

As a parent of little kids I am now one million percent convinced all of this gendered “girls naturally like pink and ponies and boys naturally like blue and dinos” is utter nonsense. I try as best I can to just let my kids explore whatever they want and they do not fall along any of these gendered lines.

But ultimately, it feels like a losing battle since everyone in my life (partner included) as well as all of society is fighting against me on this. As my kids have gotten older I can already see how they are ~~falling~~ being pushed into gendered interests. But I know it’s not some organic interest. I can draw the lines and point to how they get so much societal push on these things.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

This is why a few more radical parents dont reveal their childrens AGAB to others. It comes with its own set of challenges, I'm sure, but I sure wish I had a little more space from cisnormativity growing up

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[–] JohannaChittarra@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (3 children)

BEWARE: An object’s ability to reflect certain wavelengths of light has the direct effect of permanently altering your child’s gender identity with repeat exposure.

[–] GorbinOutOverHere@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (5 children)

That's why you're not supposed to look at the sun, it's too much concentrated gender

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Fun fact: In most Roman languages that assign genders to inanimate objects (that I know of), the Sun is usually male (le soleil, el sol, il sole) and the Moon female (la lune, la luna). In German it's the opposite for some reason, the Sun is female (die Sonne) and the Moon male (der Mond).

In German, the Sun is trans. Pass it on.

[–] WithoutFurtherBelay@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago

AND the moon. Another example of transmasc erasure smdh

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[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago

Do we have an emote of Trump staring directly into a solar eclipse?

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago

Given what chuds think 5G can do, I think you just cracked the code.

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago

I remember being a kid and my dad refusing to let me buy a Jigglypuff stuffie because "It's pink"

Well, guess what daddy, I have like ten of them now

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

a customer remind me she was buying a gift for a boy when I suggested play food

~~COMMUNISM~~ CISGENDER MALE = NO FOOD

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No they aren't and I see this shit all the time at work. Dudes always pull up with their big ass pickup trucks bragging about how big and intimidating their car is. Refuse to touch electric cars or anything smaller than an SUV because "only queers and women drive those"

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

No they aren't and I see this shit all the time at work. Dudes always pull up with their big ass pickup trucks bragging about how big and intimidating their car is. Refuse to touch electric cars or anything smaller than an SUV because "only queers and women drive those"

ZYBERTRUKKK(tm) is being marketed specifically to those insecure dudebro nerds... and they're buying it. soypoint-1 melon-musk soypoint-2

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[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

a customer telling her daughter she can't give out ice cream stickers because there will be boys at the party

wait a minute... if boys can't have ice cream... then what's the deal with all those memes about Joe Biden eating ice cream???

Joe Biden trans woman confirmed

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[–] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

When the revolution comes, I'm putting these people in the Leslie Feinberg Memorial Re-Education Camp

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

One time a friend needed to shave his face for an interview but he was out of blades. His sister handed him an unopened woman's razor and he said "ew, no!" Bruh, it's just different-colored plastic, and no one will even know.

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[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pink was considered a masculine color in settler-colonial North Amerikkka until the late 1800s. And all the presidents before Truman all wore dresses until they were toddlers in a socialized process called breeching where boys wouldn't wear male-gendered clothing until they were potty-trained and able to walk and talk.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

until the late 1800s.

Into the 1920s IIRC. Although IIRC none of the colors were gendered at all, and the idea only showed up in the early 20th century or very late 19th century with pink as the "masculine" (because it's the more "violent" color) and pale blue as the "feminine" color (because it's "gentler") before that was reversed a few decades later.

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