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Sweden’s Tesla blockade is spreading — Starting Friday, dockworkers in all Swedish ports will refuse to offload Teslas, cleaning crews will no longer clean showrooms, and mechanics won’t fix chargi...::Starting Friday, dockworkers in all Swedish ports will refuse to offload Teslas, cleaning crews will no longer clean showrooms, and mechanics won’t fix charging points as the labor dispute rages on.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 244 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The kind of class solidarity I can only dream of as a yank

[–] flooppoolf@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Autocorrect got me, thanks

[–] Fractalzero@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago

There's a joke in here somewhere. As a 'yank' your keyboard won't even allow you to write the word solidarity without changing it. 🤔

You really need to get the unions going.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Wootz@lemmy.world 139 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

There are three battles wise men know not to fight:

  • A land war in Asia
  • The Finns in winter
  • Swedish Unions
[–] uis@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For context: Finns won war against entire USSR.

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[–] rostby@lemmy.fmhy.net 6 points 2 years ago

Napoleon learned the hard way

[–] MondayToFriday@lemmy.ca 97 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Three days later, on November 20, the Seko union, which represents postal workers, will stop delivering letters, spare parts, and pallets to all of Tesla’s addresses in Sweden. “Tesla is trying to gain competitive advantages by giving the workers worse wages and conditions than they would have with a collective agreement,” said Seko’s union president, Gabriella Lavecchia, in a statement. “It is of course completely unacceptable.”

Interesting that it is legal to withhold mail. In many countries that would be a crime.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are many ways to legally do this. They may just adhere to regulations more strictly. Where before they would bend the rules to help out.

They might just schedule Tesla's mail for the end of the day and be extra "careful" that day. Oops, there wasn't enough time to deliver their mail! Maybe after a few days of a customer's mail building up, there's a rule saying the customer has to come in and get it themselves. Following all the rules exactly will fuck up any system because they are rarely created with overall productivity in mind.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

"This parcel is kinda sus and looks like bomb parts. Regulations says to fill form A123 and wait for ministry that no longer exists fill form B456. Whatever, regulation says so."

[–] RealJoL@feddit.de 16 points 2 years ago

Probably pretty hard to punish your entire work force. Next they could start boycotting you for punishing them. Or maybe their tariff contract may also cover this as legal strike action.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wonder if the difference is in refusing to deliver, but allowing pickup

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[–] uis@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They don't withhold, they just don't deliver.

Maybe Tesla even can send their employee to pick up letters and stuff. Right, nobody want to work at Tesla. Well, tough luck.

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[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 93 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As a Dane I’m bloody embarrassed if Danish unionised workers are unloading the cars there. They should bloody strike with their Nordic brothers and sisters.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

How does Tesla treat their workers and wages in Denmark? Are they bellow par?

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 14 points 2 years ago

I don’t live in Denmark so I don’t know. But I don’t think Tesla has signed a deal with any union, globally, so it’s probably the same there. I’d personally love to see the Space Baby brought to heel. Growing up with unions as a natural fabric of society, and indeed with unions on the boards of most business in Denmark, it’s never appeared as an adversarial thing to me until I moved to an Anglo-Saxon country.

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 91 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Worker solidarity is lovely to see. Good luck Sweden!

[–] snor10@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago

Thank you! We will strangle them out!

[–] snor10@lemm.ee 68 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Proud to be a member of the Swedish metalworkers union!

[–] lipilee@feddit.nl 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Black metal or death metal workers? 🤘🤘

[–] snor10@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We are music agnostic, need to keep our eyes on the ball and not descend into the madness that is metal genre debates.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago

Obviously not dead metal workers, they have the European Agency for Safety and Health at Work

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[–] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Will someone please give me the cliffs notes on how Tesla has pissed off the Swedes?

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 94 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It didn't sign a deal with the unions and tried to strongarm its way through it

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I see, so another case of Americans thinking their rules apply everywhere.

[–] Case@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be fair, Tesla is owned by a South African who immigrated to Canada, then the US - and had apartheid slaves do the hard part of precious stone mining.

Much like the former cheetoh in chief, completely removed from the realities others face, and never had to deal with consequences.

It isn't a solely American thing, though we may be the world champs at it.

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[–] WallEx@feddit.de 15 points 2 years ago

And now they suffer the consequences, serves them right.

[–] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 11 points 2 years ago

That seems unwise.

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[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Reading the article, it seems they do not have basic minimum wages set federally and collective agreements are the basis in all workplaces.

I have to wonder if Tesla will just find other ways to get the product into the country instead. Unconfirmed local reports say that the cars are being unloaded in Danish ports then driven into Sweden.

Toys are Us refused to sign a collective agreement in the mid 90s but was convinced to sign after similar strike actions.

So it seems Sweden might still have a strong union environment and will be able to affect public sentiment about Tesla in the long term as they even mention people refusing services from Tesla based taxis.

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[–] StickyLavander@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Please everyone get on board with this. Do not support greedy corporations!

Tesla, Amazon, Starbucks, are all trying to stop there workers from unionizing and giving them better life. You have other options, don’t give them money. This is because in todays world we vote with our money to make change happen.

[–] M137@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

their*

And yes, there are very few things most people aren't able to get elsewhere from another company. It's only a bit inconvenient at first, when you have to spend some time finding better alternatives but once you've done that it's just as easy as before and you feel good about your choices.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I just try to act like these firms dont exist. I wont even open amazons website, but even if i did and couldn't find something anywhere else, i would just consider that item to not be available for purchase anywhere. I also refuse to receive anything that I can see is related to companies like these even for free, if its reasonable to do so and even then reluctantly. Nestle is fucking annoying about this since they actively try to hide their name under other brands they have control over.

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[–] uis@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This is what happens when capitalism tries to fight with democracy. If government fucks over citizens, then citizens ignore government, but if government represents and helps citizens, citizens will do "Tesla, fuck you!".

EDIT: or when unions work.

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Waiting for the "damn commies" comments.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If The Swedes are commies then just call me Comradesson!

  • an American who collaborates with our office in Sweden.
[–] snor10@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago

Kamratsson in Swedish.

Fun fact: In Sweden it is common use the phrase "Work comrade" (arbetskamrat) to refer to your colleagues.

[–] Amends1782@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Dude what the actual fuck are you saying, almost the entirety of lemmys user base is extremely left and pro communism and socialism. In fact, certain parts are so communist, they got defederated. And you'll see what people call "tankies" everywhere. Lemmy is the epitome of leftist thinking and ideals. What a silly comment to make, here, of all places. It would make sense on twitter

Edit: this comment would be legit on Facebook too

[–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I woudn't call simping for Putin or certain chinese capitalist as communism.

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[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Please let it spread

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 years ago
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[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Teslas in Sweden are probably going to have a lot of flat tires in the near future.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Just the ones in the warehouses. Unions don't get mad at the public. They get mad at shitty, oppressive, conservative employers.

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[–] uis@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

It's Sweden, not France

[–] aes@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, you mean a mass movement of anarcho-communist activism would slash the tires of private cars?

No.

It's even wilder. This is just normal people having a union.

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[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I find it fascinating that they have no legislation about workers rights. I am curious if any Swedes could inform me how the "conservative" style movements are doing in Sweden.

[–] aes@programming.dev 11 points 2 years ago

Well, I guess I have two thoughts on that. For one, what you're probably thinking of is seen as basically qanon freaks. The other is that of course there's a political right, and of course there is a social conservative current.

The right has traditionally been a coalition of liberals and conservatives, but the Christian conservatives are actually Christian. (They command a certain degree of respect, even though I don't agree)

As for the social conservatives, they're to a large degree absorbed by either the traditional social democrats (or "total autocrats" as I like to call them) or the nazis.

The WHAT?

Yes. The left was so busy suppressing racism (real) that they made it basically impossible to have adult conversation about the problems inherent in eliminating low-education jobs and, at the same time, accepting a lot of illiterate refugees. And as the reality of taking from the middle class boomers (who strongly identify as working class) to fund the result, the nazis were there, and they're scary huge now.

Idk, there's a lot to unpack and explain here, and I'm sure others have other angles, so I'll leave it at that.

[–] SuperTulle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago

Sweden has plenty of legislation about workers rights, this conflict has more to do with employee benefits and the unions right to represent their members.

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