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Recent polling suggests that Americans are very worried about gun violence. A Quinnipiac University poll taken from Oct. 26 to 30, right after the Maine shooting, found that 46 percent of registered voters worried about becoming a victim of a mass shooting themselves. That matches a high set in July 2022 in the wake of the Uvalde, Texas, shooting at Robb Elementary School, and is 9 points higher than a low of 37 percent in December 2017, the year the survey began asking the question.

Americans also feel pessimistic that anything will change. Indeed, 68 percent don’t believe the federal government will do anything to reduce gun violence within the next year, per the Quinnipiac poll.

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[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Article starts with a question, the answer is no

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I feel like the biggest chance we had to change was after Sandy Hook Elementary. There were 26 dead kids and teachers. This should have been the moment that kickstarted a discussion and movement on gun control legislation.

Instead, we got a lot of "thoughts and prayers" and politicians (along with groups like the NRA) killing any gun control efforts. And that's not even getting into guys like Alex Jones spreading conspiracy theories and harassing grieving families while saying that they were lying about their kids being dead. (I really hope Jones fails at hiding his money, gets every last dime seized by the families that won lawsuits against him, and ends up penniless.)

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The answer to "Will x change public opinion on guns" is always no. Everyone's mind is made up. We've collectively decided dead children is simply the cost of doing business.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Our gerrymandered, billionaire-backed minority rule legislative branch has decided that. Not “everyone”

[–] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago
[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Getting worse is a change.

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Something will eventually change. The question is how many people will get hurt before it does.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

If Sandy Hook didn't change things, why would anything else?

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

There is no upper limit as to how many have to die first. If there were, we would have reached it years ago. Things will change, for the worse. The biggest and most horrific mass shooting this year, is still about to happen. And it will only continue and continue and continue until at last, only the most sadistic monster with the biggest gun is left standing and the rest of the world has become a cemetery.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the joke is old, like from the 80s, but the best way to get gun control would be for blacks and other people the right wing dislike to start arming and organizing. As long as guns remain almost exclusively a power fantasy and fetish of the right, especially certain kinds of men, changing anything is going to be difficult.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

That's what got Reagan to sign a gun control bill

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Constitution EXPLICITLY allows me to shoot people! It also EXPLICITLY allows MY God to rule the Country! I'm Pro Life and LOVE the Constitution!

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Sir. This is a Wendy's.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

those '68 percent' that don't believe the feds will do anything, should.. maybe.. i dunno.. sounds kinda too radical for some to accept.. do 'something' themselves, like vote for persons that will do something.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It slays me that they have to poll people to find out that Americans are very worried about gun violence. It's like all the wailing and gnashing of teeth just goes unnoticed until an "official" poll makes it reality. Of course the Maine shooting will change things - the NRA will double down, gun nuts will insist arming everyone is somehow an answer to rising gun deaths, and more politicians will receive huge kickbacks from arms manufacturers. Makes one long for the good old days when a butcher knife was all you needed to "divorce" your wife or get rid of your kids. People are by nature monsters, and the one thing that never changes is that absolute fact.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People are by nature monsters, and the one thing that never changes is that absolute fact.

This is the best argument against gun control. It's harder to victimize someone if that someone is armed.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It definitely could be read that way. Although I'm staunchly against guns for the reason that people are monsters and are trigger happy, I'm starting to see (especially as a targeted demographic) that carrying a weapon maybe the only sensible thing left in a ridiculously monstrous world. If it's gonna be them versus me, I'm gonna make damn sure I win that battle. Let the last man with the last gun reap the rewards - a blasted earth that's no more than a nuked cemetery and a few bits of contaminated food and water here and there.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't see the world quite as nihilistically. I believe the majority of people aren't violent or monstrous, but I do believe that the current structure of our society encourages people to be that way. Look at the state of our politics: We are told that if we aren't outraged by one thing or another, we must be ignorant or apathetic at best, evil and complicit at worst.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

That's good though, I hope you never do see it as nihilistically as I do. At least you have some modicum of hope, and that's something that I hope you can hold onto.

I'm reminded of the passage from "Lost Horizon" where the elder priest says "look at the world today. Is there anything more pitiful? What madness there is! What blindness! A scurrying mass of bewildered humanity crashing headlong against each other."

That was published in 1933. And not much has changed in the world of politics or people.