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Ex-president’s lawyers made clear their preference and intentions to delay proceedings as they opposed December trial date

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[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Obviously he wants to pardon himself. Trump fancies himself to be above the law, and until now he hasn't had any meaningful consequences for his many illegal and immoral acts.

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Is there a chance that he could push the trial back that far? It shouldn’t be allowed to happen. Imagine he gets re-elected and pardons himself. That is going to make the election insanely stressful for everyone.

[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He probably also thinks once he becomes president again, executive privileges would apply and he could simply day he is withholding all those documents legally.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sure he will continue to spew self-justifying lies, but that's not how any of this works. The crimes he's accused of are a slam dunk, heaps of evidence, Trump was even bragging about having the classified documents and showing them off to others to self-aggrandize and gain favor, including Kid Rock of all people.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The courts need to act quickly though, because obviously he will stall for time in the hopes he'll be president again and able to pardon himself.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The courts need to act quickly though, because obviously he will stall for time in the hopes he’ll be president again and able to pardon himself.

Unfortunately, a felony conviction would not disqualify Trump from running. He could run from prison like Eugene V. Debs did. To disqualify Trump the best bet would be invoking the 14th amendment for having, "engaged in insurrection or rebellion," but that would be unprecedented, it's an open question whether congress could disqualify a presidential candidate, and that's a different matter than the classified documents scandal.

[–] skellener@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Then make it unprecedented. This traitor fascist dictator should be in prison now.

[–] Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I really hate people saying invoking the 14th for his insurrection is unprecedented like the act itself is the problem.

It’s also unprecedented that we have a political candidate that tried to overturn the last election by force of violence (you know, an actual bonafide insurrection).

THAT is the problem- and it’s an unprecedented problem. The 14th established the precedent, and no, trump IS guilty and we all know it- “innocent until proven guilty” is a legal assumption designed to ensure due process and the protection of civil liberties. It is an assumption and not a statement of fact.

[–] skellener@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

How about we just have the trial right fucking now!!