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[–] GracchiBros@lemmy.world 148 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

Same bullshit logic that helped many support the genocide of those "barbaric" Native Americans because some actually had the gall to attack the colonial invaders.

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wonder how few will draw some of the parallels of the colonial expansion in Australia and the West in general.

I love the types that say others should go back to where they come from ignoring their parents and grandparents were not that far removed from the boat that brought them here.

Then they don't want to acknowledge that these groups were probably not that thrilled at being slaughtered and their kids taken away from them to make way for their colonial ancestors.

It's a amazing trait to me that humans can hold such diabolically opposed ideas as the same truths for them.

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 142 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"We demand the return of our hostages, which is why we're going to bomb where our hostages are to fucking rubble"

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are the hostages even still alive? I somehow doubt that.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Real question is did they end up dying in one of the saturation bombings

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't think it matters which murderous asshole kills you. This trend of trying to assign more blame to one side is ridiculous. It's civilians being caught in a war and that needs to stop.

[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It might be relevant when Netanyahu is responsible for both sets of murderous assholes as well as the entire situation in general. Israel is the only party who can decide when civilians stop dying, and right now they are the sole party deciding to continue the carnage.

Edit: Not completely true actually. The US can pull the plug on Netanyahu's war machine at any time, but our politicians have also decided the carnage must continue.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

If not, it's because Israel keeps wiping where they supposedly are off the map.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I get what you're going for but if you want to be realistic, the hostage taker wouldn't be surprised/upset in the third panel. Israel is undoubtedly committing war crimes but Hamas has made it pretty clear they don't give a shit if Palestinian civilians die.

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] archomrade@midwest.social 10 points 2 years ago

Yea, except there should be like 50 hostages and one guy with a knife, and then the pink shirt guy blows them all to bits

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Yes very good

[–] ElCanut@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I get what you mean but it's not because the terrorists don't care if you kill the hostages that you can kill them

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seeing as how Israel isn't letting civilians leave the war zone, there's plenty more human shields to choose from!

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

how Israel isn't letting civilians leave the war zone

Neither is Hamas.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[–] jalda@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow, Israel is doing the same as a terrorist group. That must mean that Israel are the good guys.

Great argument!

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Hamas could let their people South and no one gets hurt. If Israel lets Palestinians across the border into Israel, Hamas will sneak in with them and kill lots of Israelis. Can you not see the difference?

[–] Destraight@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Then go tell the artist to change the facial expression if it bothers you so much

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You mean the original artist who didn't add flags to the image? Or do you mean OP who I did (jokingly) suggest that to...?

[–] Destraight@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

It didn't sound look like you were joking.

[–] reflex@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago
[–] RichCaffeineFlavor@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

First panel is straight up nazi propaganda. Completely buying into the 'human shields' narrative the zionists use as an excuse to deliberately murder civilians

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago

Yep, they said the same thing when they would bomb neighborhoods in Iraq and kill dozens of civilians, that they were being used by insurgents or whatever. It is decades old propaganda always used against any non-state militant group.

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

And thats the true,