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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Don't use vehicle integration between your phone and car at all?

Even then, you're still trusting your phone, though. Unless you're using something pretty custom like LineageOS, I'd be surprised if there was anything keeping other parties (Google/Apple?) from spying on your phone communications.

Maybe (maybe) there are regulations keeping your carrier from spying on the contents of your texts. (Maybe.) But (again, unless you're going the extra mile and using LineageOS with F-Droid and no Google apps or something) I'd be surprised if there was anything keeping your phone's manufacturer or evil apps from intercepting your messages.

But also, cars have worse issues than that. I just got a Subaru and their EULA says that by riding in or driving a Subaru, I agree to allow Subaru to record any audio in the car and use the audio to train AI and such. Subaru isn't even the worst privacy offender. See here for more info.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 16 points 2 years ago

Oh no, Subaru, no. Not like this.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Just read through that whole thing, and now I’m wondering when we’ll start seeing hacking tools to disable certain things, or diy manuals to remove the cabin microphone, etc.

edit: or articles like “how to relocate the microphone under your seat so all they can share are farts”

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I pray daily to Saint Louis Rossmann for such tools.

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It seems like more and more there is a need for some kind of privacy inclined instructional website to come out like iFixit to tackle such things.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

It’s probably going to happen, eventually. Still early in the game but there has to be some Subaru (etc) technicians that are just done with all this in their own vehicles.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

In Android at least, you can pair your device and not allow access to texts. Then you can have the phone read/respond, instead of the car.

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Still glad I’m rolling my 2000 Honda CRV shitbox with a Sony stereo from 2010 - when Bluetooth streaming to your car was just starting to be a thing. All the cheap plastic things are showing age but at least the thing can’t spy on me.

[–] Taniwha420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have a '84 Mercedes 300D Turbodiesel. That thing will keep running after an EMP. It'll even keep running when I take the key out (I got a vac system leak somewhere). I'm going to cry when that thing dies. It's so not fussy either. Radiator instructions: "Try to use clean water."

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Hah. I drove an '85 300D Turbo diesel in the early 2000s. That thing was a fucking tank. I had to eventually get rid of it because the body was rusting apart. The engine still ran, and likely would have until the end of time. I extended the life a bit by bolting metal rails under the seats to keep them from falling through the car into the road.

I had the issue with the engine still running when taking the key out as well. I would have to pop the hood and push on this kill switch thing in order to turn it off. My mechanic was able to fix it, I forget what the issue was though.

I miss that thing.

[–] Taniwha420@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yup. That's the drill. It's so reliable it won't stop without direct interference.

[–] Taniwha420@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hey, do you recall what it was that was causing it? I'm pretty sure there is a leak in the vac system somewhere because the engine not stopping coincides with the door locks not working.

Yeah, and I'm doing the same thing: popping the hood and hitting that 'STOP' switch to kill the fuel supply.

Mine was babied until I got it 6 years ago. I live in a place now that uses lots of road salt. I made a decision at one point: I can't afford to baby it, so I'm going to drive it to death. I'm going to mourn when it dies. I wish they still make simple cars like that. Ironic it was such a luxury back in the day. Pretty sure I've got the original receipt and it was bought for $38 000 in '84.

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I actually reached out to my father to ask about this because the machanic was a buddy of his so I thought he might have some info. It was indeed a vac system issue.

I also live in a heavily salted area, so yeah. Rust did the body in before the engine went out. When you finally retire yours, make sure to pop the "Turbo Diesel" decal from the back of it. I still have mine sitting on a desk at my parents house. A nice memento of my many good years in that car.

[–] SmashingSquid@notyour.rodeo 5 points 2 years ago

In order for the car to access your texts you would need to pair the phone via Bluetooth and allow access to them. This is more about older systems from before Apple CarPlay and android’s equivalent where you were stuck with whatever features the car had rather than just letting your phone take over the entertainment system’s interface.

[–] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

can you connect audio directly to the car with a 1/4” analog input? Or connect a Bluetooth adapter to the 1/4” input and connect to that? Can you change to a car that doesn’t have the system that reads your texts?