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He now has 4 games with 3+ TDs. He sits at the top of the all-time OSU WR list with 100+ yard receiving games with 14. This kid is gonna be an all-time great. The odds of us getting 1 or 2 from Carolina are very high right now, so I say if we’re at 1, forget Caleb, trade down to whoever has 2, get their first in 2025 and take MHJr. with no hesitation. I really hope Fields shows something these last 7 games so we can just roll with him next year. I still think he can be great with a good coach.

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[–] SleezeBallGang@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I rarely buy authentic bears jerseys bc ya know….

But I have this much confidence in MHJ, that I’m pre-ordering his shit once his name is called from the bears

[–] SirKJT@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Lord please trade Justin Fields away from this city

[–] cavocado@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If we’re at 1 or 2, you don’t pass on him. He’s every bit as good as his dad if not better.

[–] hippohopper78@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You pass on him for Maye or Harrison

[–] willycw08@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

At this point, I'd rather have MHJ + whoever is left at QB than Williams/Maye + whoever else.

He just feels like too much of a sure thing and the QB position is always a gamble anyway.

[–] ChiHawks84@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I actually think we all agree for once.

[–] whatever12347@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Pretty good QB > Hall of Fame WR

[–] itsmb12@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hell no. I am not trading the Carolina pick if its #1. If we get #1, we fucking take MHJr. If its #2, we pray to god Caleb goes #1 so we can take MHJr at 2

[–] alexamerling100@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This ^ I kind of hope we take MHJ and maybe trade down, get more picks and try to pick up Jayden Daniels later. We honestly need to continue to assemble talent to surround the qb with.

[–] JGT3000@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This fervor has reached the point that I feel certain we will not wind up with him

[–] sunshine60st@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This sub is delusional in thinking fields is a championship caliber starting qb.

[–] TheMop05@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

MHJ and DJ Moore are gonna be fucking useless if it’s Fields throwing the ball lmaoo.

[–] Nervous-Awareness482@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There’s not much fields can do to make me want to pass on Caleb William’s

[–] Cutlercares@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If the Bears find themselves in a position to draft MHJ, they should trade back for a haul.

[–] Drclaw411@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I want him so badly, but fully expect Poles to either take a QB and trade down, or trade down twice.

[–] JeanieGold139@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People here hyping MHJ are just setting themselves up for disapointment because there is 0% chance we get him. This was Fields prove it year and baring the most miraculous mid season turnaround in NFL history he failed. We will be taking a quarterback with the Carolina pick next year, the only question is whether we get Maye or Caleb.

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[–] tcodes27@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Somehow, someway, I think the Bears can. Why? Cause this is Chicago we’re talking about.

[–] Adnonymus@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OT - Drake Maye throws a beautiful ball. That go ahead TD he just threw was pretty.

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[–] mikereno2@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’m sure we will pass on him for a Michael Haynes clone. One thing about the Chicago bears is they love to overallocate resources on defense

[–] BigBlueRedYellow@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Fields to MHJ. Please let this happen.

[–] monkeymatt1836@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Best player in the draft and it's not close

[–] justreddis@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Agree with trading down to 2 for him. We will get a haul from the 1.

[–] theusualuser@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I'd like one new coaching staff, one new QB and one MHJ, please.

I wanted Fields to be the guy so badly, but he can't make the reads and gets himself sacked way too much to reliably move the ball down the field. Hopefully we find someone who can, but I have zero faith in this organization to do anything other than give QB's PTSD until the McCaskeys are out and someone that actually understands football is heading up this circus.

[–] -_-Moss-_-_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There is an argument, but it only makes sense if we take the 2nd or 3rd QB in the draft

[–] Lysol20@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The consolation of not getting the first pick will be MHJ. So it's really a win-win

[–] Nervous-Awareness482@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He’s amazing and I’d much rather have Williams. It’s not close

[–] croatian_partisan@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

People said the same things about Reggie Bush and Ricky Williams.

[–] ChillyRyUpNorth@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Can I ask a question?

Is he THAT much better than DJ Moore given all that we need?

[–] Penguinkeith@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah talent like MHJ is a once in a lifetime get for most coaching staffs…. It’s a no fucking brainer. QB be dammed we can get one later if necessary

[–] KosmicMicrowave@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

We need to take MHJ with the panthers pick if possible. Depending on how fields does the rest of the season and where our pick ends up, I like Penix.

[–] CriManSquaFC@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Or could be one of the biggest busts of all time

[–] BrownPapi94@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It’s a team sport, Patrick Mahomes lost a Super Bowl. Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl. QBs are a huge factor in winning games but not the only reason. It’s going to be a while until Trevor Lawrence wins a Super Bowl. Josh Allen is a potential future HOF QB and he alone can’t win games for you.

Take MHJ, build a superb team all around on three phases of the football. Pick a a qb when the team is one 15 yard pass squeezed into a tight window away from winning games

[–] woooph@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This! This is exactly why QBs come here to die. Obviously we can’t develop QBs but we also have never put a QB in a situation where they can be successful

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[–] marior012@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I definitely agree that MHJr should be on top of our list. But we STILL need to upgrade from Fields. He's just not it and it's time to face the truth. The dude has had 3 years to show up and improve. He has not. Whether that be using the second draft pick or bringing someone from free agency the elephant in the room has to be addressed (qb position).

[–] RIP_shitty_username@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It would make no sense for the team at 2 to trade up to 1 if they suspect or know that Chicago isn’t taking Caleb Williams.

[–] Joliet_Jake_Blues@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Just saw a mock where we take MHJ 1st overall. Edge at 5th

[–] burtmaklinfbi1206@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly don't even trade down if we have the #1 pick just take him. I'd rather not risk it.

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[–] NP2312@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've always been jealous of teams with a beasty WR1........for all the chat of how we've never had a top QB, we've also never had a top 5 WR

[–] kdogspence@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Live-Ostrich-3571@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

MHJ is THE generational talent in the upcoming draft. Have to get him. Then take best trenches guy with the other first round pick.

[–] mafifer@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

First, I'm not saying to not take MHJ, but I gotta ask, is the only reason that people still talk about Williams at all over Penix is his past injuries?

Yes the guy has gotten hurt but he plays with heart and actually looks good against top competition which he's faced a lot of.

Hell at Indiana against OSU, he damn near single-handedly won the Hoosiers the game. I mean....he didn't but he made it a hell of a lot closer than it should have been.

I haven't seen Maye play much but I've seen plenty of Williams and Penix and I'd take Penix in a heartbeat over Williams.

[–] AttentionHot368@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’m all for drafting MHJ over Williams, and Maye, There’s like 5 solid QB’s in this class. Why not just take one in the 2nd/3rd round??

[–] IWouldLikeAName@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Take him and then with our other pick get a QB if one of them is up if not go for another offensive lineman

[–] tokenblak@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is so sad. Slightly annoying. The mental gymnastics some Beats fans go through just to justify keeping Fields around. It Trubisky all over again. What sample size has Fields given you to even justify hope that he could "ball out" for these remaining games?

I'm not saying it's all on Fields. The Bears have a way of running QBs, but the truth remains the same: Due to a combination of poor development and lack of acumen, Justin Fields does not have what it takes to be a reliable starting quarterback in the NFL.

The sooner all our fans accept that and get over this irrational hard-on for Fields, the sooner we can all stop watching games and turn up the heat on ownership, forcing them to make the necessary staff changes to make sure this doesn’t keep happening. I get it, he’s really talented and he’s such a nice guy. It sucks, but it’s the reality we’re faced with.

[–] CraftyCanary5806@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Guys, we are going to draft MHJ and then a QB in the late first round after we trade down from our early teens pick to get a second rounder back. Fields will be back, the rookie will red shirt a year, then fields is gone.

[–] rhj2020@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Having a dynamic WR tandem is meaningless without a QB to get them the ball. It’s like having a sports cars with no engine. I have wanted Justin to be that guy but sadly he is not. He has proven to be consistently inconsistent. It’s very likely we can get a QB and MHJ. We are the second worst team in the league. We proved that Thursday night. I think we might win one more game. I like Maye, I want a traditional pocket passer. Then we snag MHJ. But you don’t draft the receiver first.

[–] mlholladay96@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Ideal scenario: Fields proves he's worth keeping down the stretch of this season while winning a couple more games. Panthers lock up our #1 overall pick. We trade back for a boatload to someone dying to take Williams. Pick up MHJr with our 1st rounder. Draft the rest of the way to improve O-line, D-line & secondary. Enter 2024 season with Fields having some improved confidence, better pocket protection, throwing to 2 elite receives.

[–] CudderKid@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Are you guys that are in the pass up on a qb camp just not watching the last couple of decades that I've been watching? I truly don't get it.

[–] BWF16@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Please Chicago, don’t take him and ruin him

[–] NardDwag@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He is a generational player and Poles MUST draft this kid with his first pick. Let someone else draft Williams, the dude is overrated

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