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[–] Deathcrow@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meh, there's plenty of naturally occurring things, that look 'artificial' to the human eye at first glance.

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Some metallic spheres after entry of a meteoroid into earths atmosphere are not enough unless you explain how they couldn't have formed naturally.

[–] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 9 points 2 years ago

Metallic spheres are one of the easiest things to create naturally. We used the principle in shot towers throughout history to make bullets. I'm just an armchair expert, but it doesn't surprise me in the least we'd see near-perfect metallic spheres from a meteor burning up in the atmosphere.

[–] WaltJRimmer@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The U.S. Space Command confirmed with almost near certainty, 99.999%, that the material came from another solar system.

Yeah, but... Lots of things come to us from other solar systems given enough time. Just naturally. Is it alien? Yes! But that's nothing special. Is it technology? I mean. Probably not. This is almost certainly a non-story. If the headline read something like, "Harvard professor studying extra-solar fragments," it would be just as interesting to anyone who actually cares. But that group is very niche. As it is, the headline we get is eye-catching but stupid and malicious.

[–] justgohomealready@lemmy.pt 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You don't have the whole context. The relevance of it being interstellar is that, at the speeds it was travelling, it should have vaporized completely when entering out atmosphere. The fact that pieces survived reentry is anomalous, as it indicates that it must have been made from alloys not naturally present in any other object that we've seen entering out atmosphere from outer space.

If those alloys are natural (but never seen before) or artificial (and so created by some other intelligence), that's the question here.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

I believe you could potentially fill an endless space with the amount of knowledge humans currently lack.

This is a potentially cool discovery, but it seems a massive leap to suggest the alloy was intelligently derived.

[–] MaxPower@feddit.de 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I am not convinced until someone shows me some actual evidence.

Regardless, I am interested to see how the religious zealots will try to explain aliens when "god created man in his likeness". Oh yeah, did he create aliens in his likeness too? Or will they come up with another "immaculate conception by a ghost"-like crazy explanation noone has every heard about?

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I've actually heard religious people talk about the idea of aliens.

Essentially their conclusion was that the bible doesn't rule out aliens because it doesn't say God didn't make other planets with life.

[–] dm21@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

I’m sure I read recently that the Vatican is not against the idea

[–] oo7goofy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, nothing in the Bible says there can’t be aliens. It doesn’t really change anything. For the Christians who deny the possibility of aliens, they probably just have a superiority complex, as do many who claim to know more than they do or who claim their theories on origin of life are definitive. Nothing new with humanity.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Cult I grew up in believes their god seeded human life across the universe

[–] Hairypooper@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The idea of extraterrestrial life has been commonplace since the 1600s. Since then, there's been many waves of belief-disbelief in extraterrestrial life.

This won't be anything new for Christianity to ponder, and they'll have plenty of theological material to fall back on.

[–] Hairypooper@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] jarfil@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

"god created man in his likeness". Oh yeah, did he create aliens in his likeness too?

Depends on what that "likeness" is. What if "God created both man and alien to be bloodthirsty creatures to fight each other"... and the winner gets to fight God live on GodTV. In the meantime, tune in to PlanetaryWars channel this weekend to see a whole civilization annihilate itself!

[–] eyy@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

i'll wait for the confirmed results.

[–] Hairypooper@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Loeb is a nutjob. He'll claim anything is proof of alien life as long as it gives him media attention.

[–] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

From the article:

"The research and analysis is just beginning at Harvard. Loeb is trying to understand if the spherules are artificial or natural."

So very much what you said, Loeb saying things to grab headlines.

[–] spinne@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

You know what this tells me? It tells me that Dr. Avi Loeb would touch space goo and press any button placed in front of him. Hasn't he read/watched The Expanse?! 😂

[–] dewritoninja@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago

Spheres are pretty common in nature and all of those elements are common in meteorites, this is just blow out of proportion. If it had stuff like a polymer that would be interesting. Also the guy saying some of the spheres look like miniature earths is just pareidolia

[–] gaw@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 years ago

The name always pop up with strings like fermi paradox on YouTube so I'll take his opinion as entertainment, much like Michio Kaku. I guess futurist like Avi and Michio most likely to be wrong.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

It says in the article they're not sure whether it's artificial.

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