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[–] Duncan_Scroatnuts@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t know but if we are looking to trade it I hope we don’t make it known to the world that it’s the plan again - surely it’s worth less when we do that.

[–] Upset_Researcher_143@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Three number ones or two number ones and three number twos. No settling for less

[–] Dopdee@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Vontae Mack, no matter what.

[–] Critical-Adhole@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is the most valuable 1.01 in years. We would be dumb to trade it honestly. Just take Williams and worry later.

[–] Joliet_Jake_Blues@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

About tree fidy

[–] Silver_Harvest@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Probably either 3 1sts or 2 1sts and a 1st equivalent player. Along with a future 2nd and 3rd.

Then play that team again after they choose the wrong QB. Not like it hasn't happened before.

[–] goonin911@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

MHJ is the best wr to play.

[–] AverageConnect1330@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It'll be at a minimum 3 firsts

[–] Clean_Target_8193@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

We got three 1st rd picks (Kinda w/ DJ Moore) from Carolina for Bryce Young. It will be more to move up for Caleb Williams. Only 3 firsts doesn’t guarantee anything especially if Caleb Williams is anywhere as good as everyone thinks.

[–] Maraging_steel@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Four first, two seconds and a solid starter.

[–] TouchGrassRedditor@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It will be worth whatever QB we take with it

[–] glockymcglockface@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There’s literally a calculation that NFL teams use to determine fair market trades that are only for picks. So what a 1st pick is worth is already calculated.

[–] dpittnet@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

That’s not how it works

[–] HopLegion@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

As of today I think it's worth whichever QB we like most.

With the hope fields balls out rest of season and we feel absolutely 100% confident we don't need a QB, it becomes a debate of just take MHJ or move back.

For me the trade out would need to be similar to Panthers but with an elite defender keeping us in the top 5. Something like the below using todays draft spots as an example.

  • To 3 with giants would be pick 3, 35 and Dexter Lawrence for pick 1.

  • To 4 with Patriots is picks 4, 36, 25 and 26 1sts.

  • Assuming raiders in top 10, it'd be there pick + a 2[ND + Maxx Crosby.

If you're reading this thinking, no chance they do that, I don't fully disagree I also never thought a team would trade DJ Moore last offseason, so that's what the Convo would become to me. An elite defender + picks to get the elite QB prospect.

Honestly though you'd have to really sell me to not just take MHJ in today's NFL. Generational wr prospect that can be a Chicago bear the next decade. Just take the grandslam off the tee when it's given.

[–] RollofDuctTape@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’m not trading the right to take Caleb Williams.

But if you want me to, I want an elite edge (Crosby or Burns), and then I want 3 or 4 firsts.

[–] Mmmoreplees@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Bout tree fiddy

[–] Brodie1567@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not sure how people still have all this hope with Fields. I love the guy but lets be honest….It’s been 31 games now. He’s 6-21 with ONE 300 yard game. He has a record breaking sack rate.

I know we haven’t seen competent QB play as a fanbase, but this really isn’t it. A QB can elevate the situation around him if he’s REALLY the guy.

[–] checkthamethod@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Because some people understand that developing a QB along with a Super Bowl winning roster takes time. They also understand that the Bears punted on Justin's development last season by gutting the team and not signing a soul who was worth a damn to play with him. That roster last year was the worst roster in Bears history. We need to stop trying to find a savior at QB and actually build a team. Justin's ceiling is as high as any QB you will get in any draft and dude is only going to be 25 next year.

[–] patchinthebox@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If the bears own it, 3 firsts at least. If anyone else owns it, a 2028 second.

[–] Ill-Ad7822@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This team needs blue chip guys.... cant just keep trading back... I hope we take williams or maye and harrison jr... think fields is gonna have to really flash down the deadline to pass on the top qbs again in the draft

[–] Not_Your_Romeo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Last year we got 3 1sts and a 2nd (if you count Moore as a 1st) for 1.01 (Bryce Young). With Caleb Williams/Drake Maye being the prospects however, a trade from 1.10 like last year would probably net more than it did, as the prospects in question are exponentially more sound than Young. So you could realistically expect 3 1sts and 2 2nds for a trade up from a similar position.

[–] simfreak101@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

this year, probable 3 firsts Depending who we trade with, it might be 2 firsts and a position player and a 2nd;

[–] Upthemeds@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

1 Schrute buck

[–] ccam0821@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Bears infinite pick glitch go brrrr

[–] NP2312@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Doesn't matter, we can't afford to pass up on a potential top QB

[–] Behr34@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

3 firsts and 2 seconds or 1 second and some change in the 3rd & 4th rounds minimum. I doubt we’ll get a round one type of player as well. I think teams will look at what Carolina did, and realize how big of a mistake they made trading a great player away.

In any case, we’re going to have 2 first rounders and 2 second rounders next draft, regardless. I believe, talent wise, this is where we turn the corner towards having a roster destined for the playoffs. If the Bears get the haul for the #1 as well, that’s just extra thick and rich roster gravy !

[–] Cutlercares@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

That's not how it works. The Carolina deal set the market. The more hype for Williams, the more value attached to the pick.

That's why we should trade it for a haul.

Last time, 1 blue chip draft pick turned into 2 blue chip picks and a blue chip player. 300% return.

We should aim for that or better this year, if in that position again.

[–] roadwaywarrior@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

At least a wet fart

[–] platinum_toilet@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I doubt teams are scrambling to trade many of their 1st and 2nd round picks and best players for a QB that will end up on par with Bryce Young.