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[–] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

Bro me defending Epstein after being exposed for having received large amounts of money from him is disniformation

[–] davel@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

damn this is really good shit, and I've read a fair amount of parenti v chompsky pieces before.

And showing how obama was, far from being the lesser evil, actually a more effective evil because he could get away with things the republicans could never dream of? absolute gold

Edit: finished it, I didnt know a lot of this. Chomsky shitting on Aaron Swartz was a new low in my opinion of him. Quite a compendium of chomsky's long history of disappointment and palatiability to the ruling class

order-of-lenin

[–] davel@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Lorenzo’s a smart & funny guy, if you can still find his work, which requires elbow grease & the Wayback Machine.

For example: 5 people who deserve as much shit as Banksy for their half-baked politics

[–] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Everything I hear him speak on marx or lenin it blows my mind how wrong he is. What really struck me was the realization that he is just a left lib Betty Shapino. Fairly intelligent/educated, but mostly Fast talking with massively oversized confidence. He will say shit about Marx that is objectively hilariously untrue, but he says it so confidently and with such professorial gravitas that people who just don't know better just nod sagely and go "Yes of course." Mean while this asshole goes on recod as saying "I never did understand dialectics."

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

He's also said that the fall of the USSR was the greatest victory for socialism ever, which is absolutely deranged when you consider the misery it lead to in the post-Soviet states and the countries that were supported by them.

Fuck Chomsky.

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

I recently read a book written in the 70s by some American Marxist and surprise surprise Chomsky was already much hated in the Marxist circles back then.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Has Chomsky ever written at length about Marxism? The most I've heard him say sounds indistinct from anything a liberal would say, like that Marxism is outdated, it's a model of 19th century capitalism that fails to analyze blah blah, and he'll even say stuff like Marxism has the same roots as fascism, or that Marxism is like a religion. The one thing that really baffled me is one time Chomsky said Marx devised an abstract model of capitalism, and that essentially capitalism is too complex to make into an abstract model and remain scientific. That's really perplexing that a supposed social scientist like Chomsky would say. What's a good alternative to modeling capitalism then, Noam? Nothing? Liberalism?

marxism idk but he talks ad nauseum about the horrors of AES

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

As opposed to my social libertarianism, which has no roots in settler colonialism!

[–] RION@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

bro lookin straight antediluvian. methuselah-ass

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

dude's about to enter Torpor

[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

Epstein would have 100% gotten a masterclass if they didn't kill him when they did.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

FIGHT DISINFORMATION

STOP TALKING ABOUT EPSTEIN SHUT UP SHUT UP epsteingelion

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Saw this ad on Facebook and the top comment was like “Chomsky is a Russian asset, he is the disinformation!”

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

if only god damn

[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

THIS is what he's been doing while he's been ignoring the situation in palestine devolving to blatant genocide???

Fuck chmosky, I hope he fucking chokes

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is not new. By all accounts Chomsky is not physically or mentally able to discuss the current situation. Finkelstein said as much - he said in an interview a couple weeks ago that he reached out to Chomsky for moral clarity right after the 7th, but he was unavailable so Norman had to figure things out on his own. And the way he discussed it, it definitely was not that Chomsky was like off on a beach somewhere or wasn’t returning his calls, definitely implied that Chomsky was not able to respond.

Given that Chomsky has been pretty good about Palestine for his whole career, it seems much more plausible that he’s incapacitated and not just like, choosing not to comment on it.

okay thanks for clarifying, seriously. For all his faults, perhaps " I hope he chokes" was a little too severe, and I'm happy to learn this wasn't new and he wasnt simply ignoring the situation. I too heard mr. Finkelstein mention being unable to reach him and together with this post, assumed the worst.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

he reached out to Chomsky for moral clarity

This is like reaching out to Kamala for consolation

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

I asked Kamala for a hug once and she said only after I run a small business in a disadvantaged community for 3 years

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

He founded JVP.

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it's disturbing is what it is. usually they wait until the radical icons die before puppeteering the body.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Chomsky made himself a puppet in the fucking 70s

[–] dead@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This masterclass was released in July 2023.

oh, gross. but better than it coming out now. I take back what I said about chokin, even if he is kind of a shitbag still

[–] YEP@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

It's been around for a while

[–] neo@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So?

I definitely take back the "hope he chokes" bit, but not because he's ancient, more because this masterclass bs was actually made the better part of a year ago, his current absence is more likely health related.

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Chomsky literally founded JVP.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

Mr. Chomsky, you ever wonder why usa capitalists are feeling comfortable paying you?

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Step 1: Rather than denying it, simply say that it's none of the public's business and refuse to elaborate

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Wheres parenti when we need him the most

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

I'd sign up if he were teaching spells and shit instead

lmao his brain is just a bowl of gelatin at this point huh?

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

chomsky-yes-honey if you have 10 minutes to spare then you don’t have any reason not to vote

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

I will forgive all his lib shit simply because he dunked hard against Sapir-Whorf (phrenology for words).

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

MasterClass, considering who is on it and who buys into it, should be called The Adults In The Room so-true