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[–] shkl@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

My phones 12gb ram and my laptop (mbp m1) is 8gb! I only use it for research and ms word but it's funny how apple tells is their 8gb is better than other's 16gb.

[–] Organic-Cow-2278@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And everyone on this sub said 8gb is enough for a MacBook Air M1

[–] darthsabbath@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I mean it really depends on your use case. My wife has an M1 Air with 8GB and it’s fine for her needs. For me not so much.

[–] KillerInfection@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Apple has a ~~memory~~ MONEY-MAKING ~~problem~~ OPPORTUNITY and we're all paying for it

FTFY

[–] Existing-Ad8218@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If you look further than reading clickbait headlines there are multiple reasons for this of which one is to keep app footprint down.

However there isn’t nor ever will be an excuse to charge as much as they do for extra memory.

[–] DoodooFardington@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Lol. You are paying for it, most people are not.

[–] Burchinthwild@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Ok. We have been complaining about this for years. And nothing changes.

[–] timbro1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Woah woah woah!!!! Are you saying Apple products are overpriced????

[–] owl_theory@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Killing the imac 27 with its upgradable memory puts me in a position where I'd need a Studio with extra ram costing nearly 1000 more than a Mini I could otherwise get away with. Makes me wait out buying for a year or two or three, or not buy at all and seriously consider pc options again. All because of ram.

[–] DiamondEevee@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

"8gb is comparable to 16gb on Windows"

yeah until the swap memory kills the SSD

[–] DrMalware@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

We need more windows options with 15+ hrs battery life and haptic touchpads. Also if I could use imessage on Windows that would be great and I'd never ever consider an apple laptop.

[–] nsomnac@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Apple has always sold a minimum spec system that always underperformed. This isn’t new. They continued to sell Macs with HDDs instead of SSDs which had huge impacts on entry level performance.

It’s what I call the device for a buyer that know not what they need but just want a label.

I rarely comparison shop for an Apple product within the lineup based upon “minor specs”; I typically shop for what I need vs what’s the cheapest way to get a new system. Effectively as a Mac user of at least 25 years - the sting of the bottom tier never impacted me - as I would have never considered a system with the bare minimum.

Apple as well as every OEM, charge premiums on things like incremental storage and ram. Apple charges a bit more than other manufacturers sure - but in the end; compare the complete system to another complete system - other than Apple’s bottom tier - they are closer in price to others than I think most would admit. And sure it’s a difficult comparison nowadays because it’s Intel/AMD + NVIDIA vs Apples M-series SoC.

[–] wipny@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Apple has historically been so incredibly cheap with storage and memory.

The 1st generation 2012 Retina MacBook Pro started at 8GB RAM. 11 years later they still ship a $1600 USD MacBook Pro with 8GB.

From 2017-2019 the $1000 USD iPhone X to 11 Pro had a measly 64GB of storage.

Even more disgraceful was Apple selling a 21.5” iMac with a 5400RPM spinning hard disk drive… in early 2020.

The only thing that seems to get Apple to change their stubborn slow moving ways is a combo of bad media press, class-action lawsuits that worked with their butterfly keyboards and low sales.

[–] RuthlessMango@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Been using a MacBook pro for 2.5 years now for work and I can't stand the thing. The poor design and buggy OS coupled with their anti-consumer practices makes me wonder why people like them so much. Their like twice the price of other offerings and still somehow slower... I just don't get the appeal, what am I missing?

[–] n3xtday1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Basically, the only company on the planet actually making good money on consumer computers is Apple. It's not that Apple is "overcharging" for RAM and Storage, they just have healthy margins while every other company has unhealthy margins. But, because most other companies have raced to the bottom, Apple looks unreasonable. I'd argue that the other companies can't offer anything of value to compete with each other, so their only option is to compete on price. Apple doesn't have to play that game to sell their products because they have plenty of other things that differentiate them so their prices are actually the "normal" prices.

[–] iseeapes@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is dumb internet Apple criticism at its peak.

Apple adds lower priced options that, sure, aren't for everyone, but also are fine for a lot of people...

And a bunch of people lose their minds. Oh-kaaay.

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