Apple

Because they know idiots will keeping buying them as long as the fruit logo still there

I just bought an M2 MBA for work. With my budget (which I don't control), I had to choose between not having enough RAM or not having enough storage. I chose to slim way down on what I have on the laptop rather than sacrifice memory, since I can use USB storage if I really need to.

But the real question I have is why I had to make the choice at all. 16GB is the absolute minimum I can accept because I need to run a Windows VM (which now takes up 10% of my hard drive) fairly frequently. Nothing should be sold with 8GB. I should have been able to get the 512GB storage and the 16GB memory for what I paid.

In unrelated news, this is my first Air since they went to the new design.

Do not like.

The tapered edges of all previous versions of the Air made it really easy to slip into a bag with a bunch of papers or whatever; now it gets stuck on things like a Windows laptop.

They basically soft-raised the price by $200,

Base model is now $1799 with them offering 'budget' model at $1599 with 1/2 of memory.

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Yep, saw their presentation, considered upgrading my M1 MBP, then saw how "new" one has 1/2 of the memory of base model M1 I have. Quickly noped out.

I have a m1 MacBook Air 16:512 that I bought 3 days after their release. Still serves me pretty good, but I went and bought a Dell for other stuff I do, 16/512 for sub $800. And get this, RAM is expandable to 64GB!

I love Mac’s; but I can’t ignore this differential.

It appears not even Apple is immune from “enshittification”.

8GB as a standard and not being able to output to two displays via thunderbolt is stupid.

These are artificial limits Apple has put to force buyers to move up a tier.

My current laptop (Thinkpad x1 6th gen) is about 5 years old now, a usb-c port has died and the battery lasts less than an hour (45% capacity lol). I was looking to return to a Macbook because I started getting into photography again, but with these stupid artificial limits, I'll just buy another motherboard/battery and use it for another 5 years... maybe by then Apple will have made 32Gb memory and dual displays standard.

I wish people will stop buying these, even for 2 years. Apple keeps doing this because people keep buying them. Apple prices are just off the charts. It's obscene greed, and they are just laughing in the boardroom at people buying these things.

They don't have a memory problem, but we are certainly paying for it. 8GB is fine for the vast majority of users, the problem is for those that need (very few) and those that want (some) to upgrade their ram, it's stupidly expensive to do it. But again, Apple also knows their user base very well, and most of them can likely foot the bill without abandoning Apple.

AAPL saving the world and helping the environment with 128gb storage iphone pro and 8gb ram macbook pro

16GB of RAM? My memory indicator is forever yellow, apparently the memory “is stressed” and I have 16gb. Your need 32gb if you actually run professional apps on it.

Sadly I'm planning to switch back to PC for my next purchase because while I adore MacOS, I find the expense, limitations and planned obsolescence of the hardware to be really detestable. I have a MacBook Pro now which would be fully capable of running Sonoma, but Apple blocks it from doing so. It doesn't even get security updates anymore, so now I guess I should just... throw it away? It's insane.

The shenanigans about overpriced RAM and their ridiculous claim that Macs need less RAM than PCs, what a ridiculous pile of BS.

When I searched YouTube for macOS memory pressure, I found some suspicious videos trying to justify that 8GB is enough - what was more odd were all the soulless comments thanking the YouTuber for supposedly explaining that 8GB is still fine today.

Fyi Apple is a business. Businesses want higher profits. Is that an issue? No, it’s not.

Do most consumers have an issue with 8gb of ram? No they do not. If they did, apple would have received many returns. (14 days is more than enough to know if the new computer can handle your needs)

I’m not defending Apple. I’m just saying that if a business can offer a greater experience than their competitor(s) while utilizing the bare minimum, then great.

On a side note, I think Apple messed up by putting the M1 in the iPad. All that power with an OS that doesn’t make use of it. But eh, what do I know? 🤣

Even base Steam Deck has 16GB ram, lol

Even relatively casual users who load up on browser tabs and inefficient Electron apps (household names like Slack, Teams, Discord, etc.) can find performance compromised by running out of RAM.

Gosh, if the Reddit community would have the same outrage towards that, as to the base model being 8GB, we would be in a better world. The increasing demands in productivity apps and in games due to shitty code is just ridiculous.

And it really sucks for consumers, because if this negative trend won't stop, your new 16GB RAM MacBook will be EoL in a few years. Unlike your old 2013 that you could use for almost a decade.

That’s what I love about capitalism…if you think a product costs too much, you can go buy something else from the competition. So instead of getting upset about the cost of RAM at Apple, just go buy a PC brand and be happy.

Don’t they say OS makes a huge difference here? I mean idk but if chrome uses 4 gb of ram on my windows but only 2 gb for the same tasks on mac, then raw amount of ram is a moot point. Apps can be optimised different on different OS.

Would love to see some real world tests instead of some arbitrary numbers especially with pro workflows involving PS, Painter, 3D software etc

Do you think the accountants/finance peeps ever did analysis/market research on if they sold MacBooks at competitive pricing compared to windows laptops? I bet they’d drastically increase their Mac market share if just once they sold their MacBook lineup at fair rates. Been on my mind since 2008

Apple does not compete with others but they compete with themselves to push people to get better version of their products.

Still rocking my Intel MacBook pro until this changes

Apple reminds me a lot of Porsche.

If the regular base spec M3 had 16 GB of ram then they wouldn’t sell a single M3 pro laptop