i always get extra storage and ram on my macbooks. i feel you double the life of a macbook when you double the ram. (i'm typing this on my 13yo macbook pro 13). upgraded to a SSD as well in the last few years. soon to be replaced by a pc and handed down to my kids/family laptop. the problem isn't that it starts with 8gb or whatever. problem is that that it's expensive.
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I think this is good that some people in media are voicing against this. If people don’t voice their displeasure, i can guarantee corporations like Apple will justify keeping 8gb ram for next 6 years.
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y’all are acting like this is new….apple has always been stingy when it comes to RAM. this is annoying but it is absolutely not news.
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8GB of RAM is the new 4GB, and 16GB is the new 8GB (kinda).
I understand what people are saying and I don’t disagree but if they called it a MacBook Air and said it an extra 5 or 300 to get a much better screen with promotion, card reader, a (subjectively) better body, and hdmi port I feel like a lot more people would be okay with that.
Some people just want a MacBook Air with a better screen and more ports and they are willing to pay a premium for it. That’s all there is to it.
Yes I think 16gb of ram should be standard in a MacBook Pro. But correct me if I’m wrong, that was the case with the 14 pro until this year. There was no 1599 version and there was no 8gb version. Apple didn’t need to make a cheaper version, but they chose to segment their product line. They could’ve left everything as is and no one would care
It’s honestly about time we get louder on this. It’s fucking bullshit to pitch environment as a concern and then manufacture ewaste that’ll be hitting landfills in half the time due to insufficient, non-upgradable memory.
Seems to me the entry-level MacBook Pro should have been called plain “MacBook” and the base model ought to have had 12gb of RAM.
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Apple made me go from "ye I will get a new mac" To instantly "fck I am not paying 1.900€ for 8gb ram"
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Am I missing something that apple seems to just be ignoring the massive speed loss of having to swap to a much slower SSD over and over therefore negating anything their fancy in chip memory can do?
Ok, I have a dumb question, where does more RAM matter? I am running Logic Pro without a hitch on a Mini M1 and an Air M2 and don't really see the difference.
I’ll paste my other comment:
I recorded my band’s whole album in Logic on a base model M1 Air and never once noticed a slowdown or lag or it swapping to disk or whatever. And usually I’d have a few Safari tabs open in the background while I did it.
Would I complain if I had 16 GB of memory? Nope, but I also don’t feel the need to complain about 8 because it literally hasn’t affected me, even when doing more than browsing Reddit or watching videos.
I think maybe people don’t realize that even if it is swapping RAM to disk, it happens so fast that it doesn’t matter. Or maybe they don’t realize that apps will just use free RAM and not aggressively garbage collect if you have the available RAM. Or maybe they’re coming from OSs that don’t handle 8GB well.
To me and what I do, I literally wouldn’t notice a difference if I had 16GB, but people are acting like they can’t even browse the internet on 8 when I’ve done more than most people do on computers with 8.
Sure, give me more, or don’t, idc. I doubt I’d get this performance out of a Windows machine of this size running ProTools on 16GB.
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I buy second hand now instead of playing Apple's ridiculous games.
I recently bought a MacBook 12" 2017 and I deliberately looked for one with 16GB of RAM. Item is in great condition. Battery needs changing though.
2 years ago I bought an M1 Pro 14" (16GB and 512GB), brand new with 2 battery charges for $300 less than retail price.
Only the top end provides value and I'm not prepared to purchase a 16" M3,4,5 Max quite yet.
Until upgrades are $50-70 I won't pay full price for Apple gear. I recommend everyone else do the same. Ton of cheaper M2 products at the moment I hear.
While this is true to some extent, no one wants to talk about the cost of having the best support by far in the business. Up charges like this help cover those costs.
The argument is always Apple devices handle RAM much more efficiently. True? I have no clue.
I suspect that these 8GB laptops are being sold at a loss to attract customers, with the expectation that they will need to upgrade in a year or two. Those of us who are familiar with the Apple ecosystem may be more likely to purchase additional memory and storage. While it’s easy to admire Tim Cook and Apple, it’s important to remember that he is ultimately a businessperson who is focused on maximizing profits.
I feel like buying M2 14” MBP’s on the resale market is the only way to “fight back.”
Give them nothing at all for the MB Pro 14” M3 not-pro.
This reminds me of how Apple held onto 128GB SSDs for as long as possible with MacBook Pros and Airs last decade.
That’s Tim Cook for all y’all
For me, I just feel like I’m being ripped off with those RAM and SSD prices.
I get to spec’ing up a new MacBook Pro and feel like I’m being ripped off and manipulated.
Which leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I close the browser.
I’d like to upgrade my M1 Pro to an M3 Max but decide the feeling of having been taken for a fool just isn’t worth it for me.
In Australian dollars the prices are more than obnoxious for upgrades.
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LOL. No "we all" aren't paying for it. A lot of people see a scam for a scam, and choose not to "pay for it." The problem is, a lot of people are happy to be taken advantage of.
Can you remind me what the problem is?