NFL

MAHOMES 2023 STATS:

Passing yards: 2442

Rushing yards: 258

Cmp%: 68.6

TDs: 17

INTs: 8

TD %: 5.1

Y/A: 7.3

Fumbles: 2

Sacks: 12

LAMAR 2023 STATS:

Passing yards: 1954

Rushing yards: 440

Cmp%: 71.5

TDs: 14(9 passing, 5 rushing)

INTs: 3

TD%: 3.6

Y/A: 7.7

Fumbles: 10

Sacks: 21

Not the most explosive MVP race between two quarterbacks.

Hurts has no right to be in the MVP conversation with his current statline imo

Outside the top 5 in ypg, outside the top 5 in pass tds, tied for 5th worst in ints thrown, outside the top 5 in QBR and Rating.

lamar will probably have a few more good passing games and win it, i could see burrow pushing him hard for it though

I need to know how lamar is top 3. His stats just arent there. Hes lucky he has an elite defense imo. I like him but idk if he should be in the mvp conversation.

If any of you are gamblers I think Herbert at +15000 is outrageous value.

He should get the splint off his finger next week and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes on a tear down the stretch.

Now is it likely that he does enough to prove himself as MVP? No, but in a weak year I think the odds are a lot more likely than +15000.

What’s crazy I don’t even consider Lamar that special compared to previous MVP candidates. His MVP season and this year don’t even compare to the likes of Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes, Warner, or Manning. You’re telling me his seasons are comparable to those guys? Give me a break. There is nothing that special about Lamar that wows me that makes me consider him an MVP of any kind.

CJ Stroud needs to be in the MVP picture as well. Dude is already looking like a future HOF'er.

If not for deflections leading to fluke picks Hurts would be leading this by a mile lol

People seem to be having a hard time understanding these are odds for the end of the season. They are banking on Mahomes starting to play better. Not current body of work.

If Texans make the playoffs and Stroud has the same stat line as say Mahomes, does he deserve MVP?

In a year where the most valuable player isn’t a QB, it’s still just a conversation about QBs. Truly a meaningless award as currently titled.

Kinda bull shit I don’t see Dobbs on this list

If a Ravens player wins it, it should be Roquan

Just gonna say it: this is a crappy MVP year.

Today, I would give AJ the MVP over Hurts... but I think Hurts play is more sustainable over the entire year.

I’m going to freak the fuck out if a non-QB gets it this year when Coop didn’t get serious consideration in 2021.

Fucking salt in my veins

Unfortunately for lamar I just don't think they will give mvp to a qb on pace for 20 touchdown passes. I think he has been the most consistent of those three this year, though. His only bad games have been mediocre at worst.

Is Tua out after these losses

Tua really hurt himself last week. It feels like halfway through the season there's no real standout so if anyone lights it up over the 2nd half it's theirs to win, assuming they win enough games.

I know there's a lot of football left, but so far this seems like the perfect season to award MVP to a non-QB.

If the chiefs get the #1 seed it should go to Taylor swift

Just give it to Stroud. I want a rookie to win it so bad.

Sorry but Mahomes certainly does not deserve MVP. 17TDs 8INTs is not MVP level.

And CJ Stroud

I'm actually surprised Lamar is in the running. Imo he's playing like an MVP but he's also playing with low volume and high efficiency which is usually a death sentence for MVP voting which is usually more about gaudy numbers than actual high level play.

cmc should get mvp. It’s about time a qb doesn’t win it.

If stroud leads texans to division title and finishes with 4,200-34-1, which is possible, he's gotta win

Mahomes? 🤨

How exactly is the guy with the most total touchdowns that’s just behind the rest record wise not even close?

Mahomes looks like shit this year what the fuck are they talking about?

I got downvoted, but I’ll say it again. I like Burrow to win it this year

But like. What about defensive players or non-qb players? Myles Garrett is having a hell of a year and Tyreek hill is on track for eclipsing 2000 yarda

If Josh Allen keeps his TOs in check, I could see him winning it. Same could be said for Jalen Hurts too

I'd bet on Josh Allen if he lowers his turnovers, cause his production and TD's are fantastic.

If not, then probably Jalen Hurts gets his first if the eagles win 15 games.

Lamar is on pace for 20 passing TD's, hasn't finished a season lately, and is in the brutal AFC North, so I don't like his chances.

Chiefs defense is too good, and Andy is really shitty with the offense and a lead. 155 points in the 1st half this season, 53 points in the 2nd half. They're going to get a 1st half lead a lot and coast, and Mahomes gonna have not amazing numbers (for him).

Tua still has a decent shot and could certainly light it up, but they kinda suck against good teams, so not sure.

Myles Garrett?

Nah Mahomes shouldn't be in this discussion at all this year, sorry. He just isn't having that kind of year IMO.

I wouldn't be surprised if Joe Burrow takes it at the end. He had a really slow start but has been constantly ascending.

Give it to one of Myles Garrett, TJ Watt, CMC or Tyreek Hill. Of course that’ll never happen because it’s a QB award but this is year is the best chance of any

It’s a long shot, but if Dak can keep up his pace from these last 3 games then he’s throwing his hat in the ring late

No qb has been good enough to win mvp this year. Not even Mahomes.

It should be CMC, Tyreek, or AJ. Hell, maybe even Myles Garrett

If Burrow somehow finishes with a top 2 seed, he'll get it. Too bad the schedule is hard.

Nobody wants to win it this year. Even on a sub par team, Stroud has a legit case to win it if he can finish the year out strong and pick up some big wins along the way.

That's wild that a lot of y'all want the MVP to go to a non QB when it's almost always been a QB award. Bye weeks are coming up now. Teams will start to separate themselves as well as certain QBs

If a WR or player other than QB ever had a chance to win MVP, this would be the year. As good as Lamar, Burrow, etc have been there’s nobody that’s run away with the race. AJ Brown, Tyreek, Myles Garrett should all be in the discussion in my opinion.

I think Lamar’s volume stats will hold him back.

9tds at this stage isn’t going to be enough.

He’s unreal though, would 100% be a worthy candidate.

CMC is the actual MOST VALUABLE player. But they will give it to a QB like always. If JT couldn’t win it the last time Rodgers was gifted another mvp, no one can. JT single handedly carried his team to the playoffs.

I like how mahomes is just automatically in the race

How about CMC? Give it to an RB for a change. He’s having a hell of a year, leading the league in rushing yards and total TDs, and he’s certainly the most valuable player on one of the best teams in the league. I think most people were counting him out after his injury history in Carolina, but he’s persevered and managed to be a real threat.

How is Mahomes in the MVP race?

Feels like no QB should be considered the top runner. McCaffrey and Brown stand out as the non-QBs.

If it is a QB I feel like Goff is getting shafted. Outside of a thought game against Baltimore the guy has been playing great all year. If Hurts, Mahomes, and Jackson are getting consideration no reason Goff shouldn’t be in the discussion with them.

Stroud is a rookie but his name also stands out, especially with his crazy TD:INT ratio.