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Sam Howell is a below average qb and has him putting up above average stats. Also the KC offense has taken a nose dive replacing him with Nagy as OC. He has championship experience and is a brilliant offensive mind and also has ties with Poles from their KC days. He would turn Fields into a Mahomes lite MVP candidate.

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[–] carminie@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Howell had first round potential back in college, I was honestly surprised to see him drop so far. He’s second in the league in passing yards right now and that’s with a trash OL. He is not a bad QB at all

[–] DeltaMaximus@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t want another coach who stands behind Reid, especially when Reid calls the plays.

[–] marathon_endurance@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Bienemy is the OC for Washington. I don't think Reid is calling the plays

[–] No_Side_1915@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Standard_Employee751@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You had me until you said he had ties to Poles.

If Poles is still GM then HC won’t matter at all.

[–] Twittenhouse@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hasn't Chicago already had enough former Kansas City coaches, managers and front office people?

[–] YeetStreetBoys@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

someone who has never been a HC is not the answer for the Bears

[–] CarcosaBound@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’d give Bobby Slowik (Houston OC) the job tomorrow if I could. He needs to be on the Bears’ short list

[–] nagurski03@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is how you end up with John Fox

[–] Loop_Within_A_Loop@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Bienemy is going to get his shot to be head coach soon the way Howell has been playing, but if we hire him this offseason, it's because he's going to be coaching Caleb or Maye

[–] Jmoss8@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yea, not a fucking chance.

[–] Significant_Cycle_76@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is certainly a take

[–] RogerPenroseSmiles@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bienemy and Nagy are both donkeys and we aren't getting Andy Reid Jr in either of them.

[–] Objective_Pitch_3459@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bieniemy is way better then most realize. Reid calls the plays but Bieniemy set the whole plan. If you go back over the seasons he was Oc you can tell he made a big difference. With Nagy before the chiefs were solid but not contenders. With Bieniemy they went the whole distance 3 times winning 2.

[–] RogerPenroseSmiles@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I live in KC and watch the Chiefs every week. The only reason the Chiefs didn't win under Nagy and early in Pats career was shitballs defenses from Bob Sutton.

Bienamy is a plug and play copy replacement. Anyone looks good under Andy. He's like Bellicheck, makes jokers look decent.

[–] Objective_Pitch_3459@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Apparently you didn't read the whole comment. I grew up here and still live here. The facts are under Nagy the chiefs were solid but not true contenders. Enter Bieniemy we went to 3 count that 3 superbowls and won 2 of them. The facts support that Eb was the better Oc laying out the plan then Nagy was.

By your own argument Nagy is just a plug and play under Reid so what are you really trying to say?

Lets not forget that this is the first year Spags defense has been dialed in from scratch and not just getting everything going around week 8, thankfully so because if they weren't the chiefs would have a loosing record at this point.

[–] rock-theboat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No thanks. Also, how do we know Howell is below average? Fields, MVP? Lol

[–] cmacfarland64@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I like this idea. I also like Todd Monken.

[–] Practical-Courage812@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good chance Ron Rivera is gone in Washington at end of year and if Washington doesnt hire Bieniemy as HC then i wouldnt want him as HC either. Honestly i think he is mediocre and Washington is middle of the pack on offense currently and they have no run game to speak of, which to me seems like the offense is very one dimensional. Give me someone else as HC.

[–] Ttucrabtree@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It’s sad when middle of the pack is a severe upgrade from the current situation…. Like remember winning half your games? Those were such good times.

[–] Guhonda@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Doesn't everyone dislike him? Doesn't he piss everyone off?

Look, there has to be a reason he's up for HC jobs every year, but nobody hires him. Remember the last time we wondered why a talented coordinator never got a HC job? It was Trestman, and the reason he never got a HC job before us is because he wasn't cut out for it.

[–] johnnybadapple@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Actually Trestman was a championship winning CFL head coach both before and after the Bears. He had plenty of HC experience but made a few crucial errors in CHI that he couldn’t recover from, such as hiring Mel Tucker and not tossing away some bad apples before the rot set in.

[–] GrdiSr@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

To be fair I think a big part of it was the Nagy effect. People look at KC with Andy Reid and question how good the OC actually is and how much are they a product of Ried coaching and Mahomes QBing. Nagy's tenure in Chicago made that even worse.

But to also be fair, I don't know anything regarding his character, so who knows.

[–] GrdiSr@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He would turn Fields into a Mahomes lite MVP candidate.

I like Bieniemy. Wouldn't be my top pick but wouldn't mind him if that's the way the Bears went. But this is a crazy leap right here.

And looking for a coach with the specific goal of saving Fields is dumber than keeping Flus and Getsy around.

[–] nigeldog@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If we’re gonna target a coach for their ability to develop a quarterback, I’d rather it be Bobby Slowik from Houston. CJ Stroud looks elite and there’s no offensive-minded HC in charge of the team like in KC; Slowik runs the offense.

[–] padflash_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

CJ Stroud was already elite at everything they need him to do. I do like Slowik though, Shanahan tree + good resume.

[–] gabehcoudgib@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Are we seriously crediting Slowiks development skills for Strouds success after only 8 games?

Maybe Stroud is just good?

[–] SwissyVictory@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Chiefs offense is the same, outside last year they had Juju being somewhat reliable as a 2nd receiving option, and now they don't. Even then, the scheme is getting them open, and Mahomes is hitting them in the hands, they are just then dropping the ball.

[–] ace7575@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Also their running game is terrible now with Nagy as the OC...

[–] Bitter-Might-5685@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The bears need much more than just a coach bro they have a very poor personal and roster top to bottom I say he will take over with DC after river boat Ron is fired

[–] Headwallrepeat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pace obviously has some history with him, so if they fire Flus and he doesn't get an interview that would say a lot about Bieniemy.

[–] Important_Resident92@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Poles*. I’ve caught myself a few times too because it’s been such a revolving door….sigh.

[–] Headwallrepeat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Damnit. I usually don't do that. Ha.

[–] TheWorstKnightmare@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No, dude. Pick a HC candidate who actually calls plays.

[–] Schicktopia@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

We need to hire the assistant Coaches first, then a head coach, then a GM, then a president.

What. Can’t. You. People. Understand?!

The McCaskey’s have a PROVEN business model. This is the way.

[–] jerome_the_dominator@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yah he’d fit right in. He’d have to get fired for HR reasons. Look at his history outside of football. That’s why no one will hire him.