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[–] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago

Blizzard: willfully engage in a business model that manipulates players into constantly looking for the next thing, and structures their games around that model to drive sales of microtransaction

Blizzard's Player Base: fills with people responding to that manipulation

Blizzard:

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Players have no patience

/Looks at Baldur's Gate 3 sales

Uh huh.

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm ruining friendships by doing this, but idc. If a game is "Free to Play" but features a bunch of "Optional purchases." That's an immediate NO from me.

So many times this cycle has gone "Free to Play" but the game is only meaningfully playable and fun if you invest ??? money into it.

That's a NO, and a BIG no.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I avoid F2P games like the plague now. Even if it was paid before. It's just not ever worth it. Even if it's not predatory now, the only way they can make money is through season passes, P2W mechanics, or ads/data selling. All unsustainable imo.

[–] Statick@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

Only exception is Counter Strike. Went F2P but there are no P2W mechanics unless you count agent skins.

[–] skizzles@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

If all it takes to ruin a friendship is not playing a game with someone then I would reevaluate whether they were actually my friends and not just casual acquaintances.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

That's called pay to win. Obvs free to play has to make money somehow, reputable companies accomplish this through cosmetics, etc. a bad actor here is Blizzard, who are selling skins for $20, battle passes for $10 , and they used to be free in OW 1 which many people paid for.

[–] stephfinitely@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

This of their own making. That keep using FOMO and then get angry that people start to expect that feeling.

[–] essellburns@beehaw.org 15 points 2 years ago

Yes, Blizzard, when you expect people to pay continuously, they expect something for their money continuously.

Did you imagine they were happy just to hand it over out of love and kindness for your profits?

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Share holders decide one-time payment games don't make enough money

CEO transfers their major IPs to a "pay as you go" service promising a steady stream of new content to be worth it

Degrades or drops older games that players still enjoy to force the new games-as-a-service model

Players expect new content that was promised in exchange for the seasonal payments they now make

Surprised Pikachu face

[–] Vendul@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago

Fuck you blizz.. fuck you activi.. fuck off microsoft!

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Almost feels like a little response to the anger from players about the 3 day early access for the new wow expansion.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

I mean… that is the live service beast.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What? Don't you have phones?

[–] Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah, I just wanna play Overwatch, why'd they have to kill it?

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Right there with you. I don’t enjoy OW2 as a heals & tank specialist. I have a pet theory that they should have bifurcated the tanks in OW1 into two different required classes and kept 6v6.

Looking forward to this, just in time for summer:

“Only $79 for early access to Overwatch Classic!”

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The delicious irony is they went 5v5 because that's what most esports games are. Now OWL is dead and so is their game.

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

🎶 It’s like Rein on your wedding day . . . 🎶

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

“Only $79 for early access to Overwatch Classic!”

I still can't process how Blizzard fans got that excited when World of Warcraft's latest content was a rollback of content.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago

Blizzard have no shame. They want a lot of money for the game, more money for subscribtion and even more money for cosmetics in the store.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

He's confusing his customers and shareholders.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Those smug assholes have been whining about "entitled" players since WotLK after the rightfully negative reception of the artistically lazy "Argent Crusade" gearsets that looked like tracksuits and were hard to tell apart from each other, class by class.

[–] Truck_kun@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

No... I just want to buy the game, and occasional expansions.

I don't want everything to be monetized.

Buy game + expansions + recurring battle pass + cosmetic shops +++.

I feel like games should limit their monetization to 2 methods, and not utilize FOMO like a battle-pass does. Any cash shops should be designed to be accessible to players not wanting to spend real money (either a game system to handle in-game currency exchange, or have players work it out by allowing players to directly trade in-game currency for either cash shop currency, or cash shop items directly - ensuring there are worthwhile things to purchase both with in-game currency as well, so cash-shop players are encouraged to participate).

Guild Wars 2 I feel does a good job of it. Occasional expansions to purchase, no sub, a cosmetic+convenience shop, but everything in it, can be purchased by converting earned in-game currency into cash-shop currency.

[–] north@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, people want new stuff, problem is blizzard doesn’t know how to make games anymore. All of the giants who made the magic happen left the company before the sexual harassment shitstorm. All they do now is capitalize on nostalgia.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

When the original main Diablo maker left to make Torchlight after criticizing the company for being a corrupt and gross place to work, the corpos left behind tweeted "fuck that loser" about him. capitalist-laugh

[–] Baines@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

suck it nubliz