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From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.


Friendly reminder: when commenting about a news event, especially something that just happened, please provide a source of some kind. While ideally this would be on nitter or archived, any source is preferable to none at all given.

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.



Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

~~There are claims emerging that the bulk of the civilian casualties were perpetrated by Isisrael shooting at the crowds running away with machinegun fire from repeated helicopter sweeps. This only emerged a few hours ago so will take time to verify and research. While Isnotreal is definetely not above even killing its own settlers for atrocity propaganda, the findings could be pretty damning.~~

Oh and would you look at that, in the time it took me to finish work and take the bus home, there really is evidence that Isisreal literally did in fact, fire on the concert participants with several sweeps of fucking 30mm autocannons from Apache helicopters, opting to shoot apart anything that moved, friend or foe. I had suspicions and heard claims of false flags since the afternoon of 7 October, but nothing that really constituted hard evidence, despite its plausibility. And the "pretty damning findings" turned out to be correct.

Of course not that it will matter to a regiment of 500,000 Andrev Breiviks, but another bit of evidence for a bit of justified fedposting.

Eliav Bellend also came to the realization that Pissreal's bombs can't reach anywhere remotely even close to South Africa, hence the racism factory on 428 King's Drive, Lynnwood/Pretoria working overtime.

PIGPOOPBALLS idf-cool PIGPOOPBALLS idf-cool PIGPOOPBALLS idf-cool PIGPOOPBALLS idf-cool PIGPOOPBALLS idf-cool PIGPOOPBALLS idf-cool

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[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago

Was just reading about the Trump/Kushner “peace plan” they proposed. I mean, most Israeli proposals are dogshit, but this was so bad. Palestinians give the Israelis everything they want up front and then maybe - MAYBE - years down the line IF the Palestinians keep to a huge list of impossible commitments that the US and Israel totally won’t renege on… then maybe the Palestinians get something sorta kinda like a state. It was so obviously just Kushner transcribing Netanyahu’s wish list.

And Trump is such a genius, he thought a deal was possible by taking Jerusalem and the settlements off the table. Like, tell the Palestinians no matter what they can’t have any Jerusalem and the settlements will continue, and that would somehow make a deal MORE possible.

[–] Trustmeitsnotabailou@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago

Libs are addicted to Trump derangement. Seeing so many post about bidens horrible polls and all they can talk about is, i don't under stand!!! Don't they know orange man bad!

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The real reason the Zapistanis are dissolving their municipalities is because they will soon announce the organization of the Lower Mexican Soviet Republic, and aim to liberate all of Mexico from capitalism

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago

When you're defintinely, absolutely "not shooting at the hospital and there is no siege" at the Al-Shifa Hospital. An IDF tweet...

"There is no shooting at the hospital and there is no siege. The East Side of the hospital remains open."

Nitter

There's a IDF turd speaking in Arabic with English subtitles. I wonder what the propaganda is in English language vids.

[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

"Israeli" media has broadcast a video of a military bulldozer driving over a prone Palestinian civilian

I think it's time for me to log off

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago

CW: dark joke, mention of suicideGoogling "How to become an aid worker in Gaza" and the number to the suicide hotline shows up

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago

American ideology, like all ideologies, is worn away by time. During the "calm" periods of history, marked by strong economic growth accompanied by social spin-offs, the pressure the ruling class exerts on its people weakens. From time to time, then, according to the needs of the moment, this ruling class re-inflates American ideology by means which are always the same: an enemy (always external, American society being decreed good by definition) is designated (the Evil Empire, the Axis of Evil) allowing the "total mobilization" of all means to annihilate it. Yesterday, it was communism, which made it possible, by means of McCarthyism, to carry out the Cold War and subordinate Europe (forgotten by pro-Americans). Today, it is "terrorism," an obvious pretext, which prepares the ground for acceptance of the true project of the ruling class: ensuring military control of the planet.

But let us not be mistaken. It is not the fundamentalist ideology with religious pretensions that is in the driver's seat and imposes its logic on the real holders of power, i.e., capital and its servants in the state. It is capital alone that makes all the decisions that suit it, and then mobilizes this ideology into its service. The means used--unparalleled systematic disinformation--are then effective, isolating critical minds, subjecting them to permanent, unbearable blackmail. In this way, the government is able to manipulate without difficulty an "opinion" maintained in its foolishness.

  • Eurocentrism, Modernity and Religious Interpretations - Samir Amin.

Very important to remember this with regards to current events.

[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Key takeaways from the G7 meeting in Tokyo

Top diplomats of the G7 met in Tokyo today with the continuing war in Gaza high on the agenda. Here are the key takeaways from that meeting:

The ministers “unequivocally” condemned Hamas’s October 7 attack on Israel and its subsequent rocket attacks, and emphasised Israel’s right to defend itself.

They expressed “deepest sympathy” for all civilians killed in the conflict so far.

The diplomats called for “humanitarian pauses” and for the creation of aid corridors, but stopped short of calling for a ceasefire.

The ministers denounced the rise in “extremist” settler violence in the occupied West Bank and expressed support for a two-state solution.

They also called on Iran to refrain from supporting Hamas and Hezbollah, and to use its influence to de-escalate regional tensions.

sounds productive

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[–] VHS@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago
[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (10 children)

umm you're not applying class analysis to settler colonialism smuglord

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Continue to wish israeli soldiers to find compassion, guillotine bibi, tear down the wall and implement communism

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Keir Starmer is battling to reassert his authority within the Labour party over the conflict in Gaza, with four shadow ministers prepared to quit in the coming days and up to 10 others on “resignation watch”.

The Labour leader is facing a rebellion by as many as a dozen shadow ministers, who sources say are ready to resign rather than vote against calling for a ceasefire in the Middle East, which Starmer has refused to back.

Several Labour MPs say they are under huge pressure from party members and constituents to take a firmer stance against the Israeli invasion of Gaza, as tens of thousands of people are expected to take part in pro-Palestinian protests in London this weekend.

A Labour official said party leaders were closely watching as many as 15 shadow ministers who have high numbers of Muslim constituents for signs they are about to quit, after the resignation of Imran Hussain on Tuesday night. None are understood to be in the shadow cabinet.

One Labour frontbencher told the Guardian:

My position has always been [that] the only way forward is a ceasefire. The pause [as advocated by Starmer] will not solve the problem. Someone needs to say enough is enough.

Another said:

I have over 600 emails on this which is more than any other subject ever, including Brexit and Covid I don’t know a Labour MP who isn’t under pressure at the moment.

- The Guardian

Does anybody want to add some context and make some predictions? I'm American so this is all Greek to me.

[Edit - I made a small one.]

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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago
[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

new Moon of Alabama

A Few Notes On The War On Palestine

Having been lightly prodded by the Biden administration the Netanyahoo regime in Palestine agreed to split its days into a 20 hours block dedicated to genociding Palestinians and a 4 hours block for ethnic cleansing.

continues at https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/11/notes-on-the-war-on-palestine.html

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (5 children)

US citizens divided over Israeli response to war: Survey

According to a new poll from the Associated Press-NORC Centre for Public Affairs Research, US citizens have become more likely to describe Israel as an ally since the war began but are divided over its response.

The survey, which was conducted from November 2 to 6, saw that 44 percent of people described Israel as an ally that shares US interests and values – up by 14 percent compared to an August poll where only 32 percent of Americans shared that opinion.

Only 36 percent said it’s extremely or very important to provide aid to Israel’s military. While 40 percent of Americans said, Israel’s military response in the Gaza Strip has gone too far.

Moreover, 38 percent said Israel’s response has been about right, and only 18 percent said it has not gone far enough.

But as Israel ramps up its intense bombardments of the besieged enclave, the Palestinian health ministry updated the death toll in Gaza to more than 10,500 Palestinians since October 7.

amerikkka

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[–] niph@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Maybe it’s because I just had my covid booster but it just feels so overwhelming and depressing like. It’s mask off genocide and the democrats apparently can’t even be driven by self interest, totally willing to tank their own numbers and maybe throw an election just to prop up fascism Make it make sense

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[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

To add to my earlier point of 17,000 South Africans in the IDF - Isnotreal isn't allowing the Irish to leave the Gaza Strip (and probably anyone with South African citizenship either).

Just like in literally 1984, the pro-Apartheid militants are massacring other South Africans with impunity.

Uncritical support to extradite the 17,000 and feed them to the big cats in the Johannesburg Zoo. I get free admission and snacks then.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

I noticed something I hadn't seen since the war started. An American correspondent in Israel streaming live wearing business clothes. Is this meant to mean that - bad pun intended - it's business as usual in Tel Aviv?

Also an MNSBC anchor just called the four hour pause a "window of hope". And then she asked a go-to military guy (an ex-supreme commander of NATO) what he thought of it. In unsurprising news - he's a MIC mouthpiece.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

FLEEING SOUTH, PALESTINIANS DESCRIBE DEATH AND MISERY

DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip — A stream of thousands of Palestinians have taken what few belongings they can carry and made their way on foot Friday to the relative safety of the southern Gaza Strip after Israel announced an hourslong window for safe passage.

More than 720,000 displaced people across the Gaza Strip were sheltering at 150 facilities run by UNRWA, the U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees, as of Thursday.

One woman who was displaced from Beit Lahiya in the north, Umm al-Adhan, spoke to The Associated Press on Gaza’s main highway as as people trudged past heading southward. She said she had been sheltering in a UNRWA school.

“Yesterday, as we were leaving the school, they fired at us,” she said. “Ten people were killed, including my nephew.”

A badly wounded child begged for water in his final moments.

“I could not find water to give him. He died in front of me,” she said, crying.

Israel estimates that more than 850,000 of the 1.1 people in northern Gaza have left, and later Friday said over 100,000 Palestinians have gone south in the past two days.

At shelters, the lack of water makes it hard to maintain even basic hygiene.

Families are packed into a school building in Deir al-Balah, in central Gaza, with tents set up in the playground, washing hung up to dry in corridors and children sleeping on mats next to their worried parents.

Suzan Wahidi, from Gaza City, says as many as seven people might share a mattress — if they can find one.

“Our children are now suffering from an epidemic, ” she said. “They suffer from all the diseases that you can imagine, diarrhea, vomiting, fever. There are no medicines, there is no food to provide us.”

- AP

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[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Uncritical support to Orca Terrorism

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[–] BigBoyKarlLiebknecht@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lmao, learning about the Genocide Convention and surprise surprise…the US ratified it on condition that they have immunity from prosecution unless the US Government agrees yea

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago
[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

I am nationalizing the lathe and putting it under communist control, effective immediately

[–] Eldungeon2@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Terrorism vs. The States monopoly of violence. It's just the politicization of who has rights and who doesn't.

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[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

U.S. diplomats slam Israel policy in leaked memo - POLITICO

The document offers a window into internal fury at the State Department over President Joe Biden’s Middle East policies.

State Department staffers offered a blistering critique of the Biden administration’s handling of the Israel-Hamas war in a dissent memo obtained by POLITICO, arguing that, among other things, the U.S. should be willing to publicly criticize the Israelis.

Slams? Fury? Blistering? I'm certain they didn't even use the word "must". Anyway - there's this...

The memo has two key requests: that the U.S. support a ceasefire, and that it balance its private and public messaging toward Israel, including airing criticisms of Israeli military tactics and treatment of Palestinians that the U.S. generally prefers to keep private.

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[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Local subreddit is pissed about the Palestine protest today

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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

for funsies i looked into an organization this lib linked as a qualified source for translation https://web.archive.org/web/20170906180510/http://www.internationallawbureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Ten-Great-Principles-of-the-Establishment-of-the-Unitary-ideology.pdf

while its just a pdf, and seems very normal on the surface, i just got this nagging feeling

uh so guess who funds the group

guess whos given awards to the group

now uh lenin-dont-laugh but its the uh

its uh

https://www.ned.org/2018-democracy-award/2018-democracy-award-honoree-citizens-alliance-for-north-korean-human-rights-nkhr/

its the National Endowment for Democracy

The fucking NED

the most well known and transparent CIA front org thats been around since the cold war

agony-shivering data-laughing tito-laugh miyazaki-laugh he-laughed

Why do I take these people seriously again?

this reminds me of when another lib linked an ' independent, anti-DPRK Korean news outlet' and it took a single google search to find it was based in WASHINGTON DC

michael-laugh

oh my god it gets even better, guess what organization made that fake case against north korea to justify more sanctions? this very org, represented by

Sungju Lee

  • A traitorous liar, so just yeonmi-park but I don't know too much about this rube specifically. He does have a book on 'escaping north korea' with the usual bull.
  • book was co-authored by an Amnesty international stooge named Susan Elizabeth McClelland, who seems completely out of the limelight usually but then appears to make shit like this and shill for Obama. She's a liberal feminist, but I think just a tool of a lib and not a fed stooge

Bum-Jin Park

  • previously a member of the Korean National Assembly, also doesn't appear at all except in the org website and mentions by the NED
  • Very little info despite being one of the heads of the org

and Youngja Kim

  • Also founding member of Human Asia, the creator of the "The Asia Business and Human Rights Center" (ABHRC) who's mission statement is:

"The Asia Business and Human Rights Center (ABHRC) is a non-governmental organization focusing policy change via academic research and consultations. The Center is housed at Human Asia, founded in 2006, a non-profit human rights organization aiming to protect human rights via the establishment of a regional human rights mechanism, which is currently lacking only in Asia. In following with the goal, ABHRC aims to defend and integrate human rights in all business activities across the Asian region. ABHRC connects various stakeholders around the globe, including companies, civil society, governments, academics and international organizations, to discuss and identify the most pressing issues regarding human rights and business."

the Human Asia do not list their sponsors, that or i couldn't find them.

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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] geikei@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

You can "nuance" the matter all you want but at the end of the day i cant shed many tears for those acting like comprador dogs in the face of genocide, fighting with the ones facilitating it no less. When you not only make a deal with the devil but actively help him and fight for him in such situations, you are one of his demons. No matter the "libertarian socialist" or whatever coating (that so many people still buy into)

Clashes are taking place between the American forces and the SDF from areas they occupy east of the Euphrates, and between the Syrian army and its allies in the axis of resistance from their points of control west of the Euphrates.

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[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you see a gofundme request for the idf-cool , report it. I've already seen a couple on social media.

According to their FAQ:

Can I raise funds for the military?

No. While you may raise funds for humanitarian aid, fundraising to support any armed conflict is not allowed, regardless of the country. This includes funding weapons, protective gear, defensive equipment, travel to participate in any armed conflict except as required by a national government, or goods and services for soldiers, territorial defense or security force, and more.

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