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From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.


Friendly reminder: when commenting about a news event, especially something that just happened, please provide a source of some kind. While ideally this would be on nitter or archived, any source is preferable to none at all given.

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.



Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] professionalduster@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

when you're definitely not evil

are we headed towards "freedom fries" 2023 edition?

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[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (5 children)
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[–] LargePenis@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children)

I enjoyed answering all the Lebanon AMA questions for the COTW event yesterday. Let's do part 2 if you have any questions. Ask away hexbear homies

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (3 children)

20 hours of genocide, 4 hours of ethnic cleansing

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[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

South Africa is due to summon the ambassador Eliav Bellend for a reprimand, not only because of diplomatic relations between Isisrael and South Africa have the stability of the Twin Towers, but turns out that the CEO of racism with ties to ukkkraine idf-cool has managed to quadruple the total use of all racial slurs in the world in just a year. Also he accused the SAFM of being a Hamas collaborator and allegedly made several anti-semitic remarks towards groups such as SAJFP, the JVP and Jewish members of the SACP. At least that's my interpretation, as the government hasn't revealed the actual nature of his comments.

PIGPOOPBALLS

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

https://streamable.com/jvz176

Tanks getting blasted. Possibly already in the thread somewhere but I didn't see it so.

Honestly think the place being in ruins makes it significantly harder on the IOF. Ruins are actually easier for infantry to move around in than streets, but significantly harder for tanks. It's also way harder to see infantry in ruins.

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

India's far-right government banned pro-Palestine protests: https://nitter.cz/BenjaminNorton/status/1722586844150538536

India is trying very hard to not fall into either camp, but the internal contradictions within India is forcing Modi's hand. He has to shit on the Muslim population because of BJP's rabid Islamophobia, but the entire Global South population is completely sympathetic towards the Palestinians. It's one thing to issue vague calls for peace while quietly buying Israeli weapons, but it's another to have a personal phone call conversation with Netanyahu and ban pro-Palestine protests. With this, we can see that Modi meeting with the Iranian president in order to issue calls for peace is just Modi trying to not completely look like a Western cheerleader.

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[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Ukrainian Armed Forces poster:

Azov vs ~~Orcs~~ Zombies

Bonus points for the F-16s in the background.

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Bit idea: photoshopping or AI generating a Hamas fighter with a swastika tattoo or similar Nazi symbology and then stating that this proves that Hamas is a neo-Nazi organization from top to bottom and thus must be destroyed; but simultaneously believing that despite every other Ukrainian soldier photographed having a Nazi tattoo, this doesn't make them Nazis and it's more complicated than that and it doesn't make their cause invalid regardless

(I'm trying to get ahead on the lathe-spinning but reality keeps outpacing parody so it's difficult)

[–] fusion513@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Anyone else remember when Trump picked real estate broker and son-in-law Jared Kushner to broker peace in the middle east? Lol. I guarantee the thought process there was just a little racism. frothingfash

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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oh my god the CIAnarcho-Bastard is back

PMING MY LEMMYGRAD ACCOUNT?

aight, this calls for the big guns

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[–] LargePenis@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Been quite offline in the last three days or so. My aunt in Syria was hospitalized after suffering from a stroke while standing in the kitchen and my wife's cousin in Iraq was in a severe car crash on the same day, crazy how life tries to fuck one over hard sometimes. Thankfully both are fine, my aunt is under monitoring but the fall has hurt her more than the stroke, and my wife's cousin "only" broke her arms and had a concussion. Sent over some money to my cousin in Syria to help out, but I still can't accept how fucked the exchange rate is. I remember exchanging $100 as a teenager in Syria back in 2010 before the war for like 4000 Syrian Liras, now the exchange rate is around 1.3 million liras for $100.

Looking forward to Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah's speech tomorrow. Will most likely be boring for you guys, but I enjoy hearing the man speak and he usually delivers on Martyr's Day speeches. He's a delight to hear in Arabic, especially when you get all the Shia allegory that never makes sense when reading or listening to his speeches in English. On a completely different note, exactly one year since legendary bald man Surovikin announced the Russian withdrawal from Kherson City. One year of not a single successful linebreaking offensive by either side. Starting to slowly believe that this shit will never end and we'll keep talking about Robotyne, Verbove, Kupiansk and Bakhmut three years from now. On another unrelated note, a bit sus how Israel has barely shown any footage of dead Hamas fighters since starting the ground offensive. Are they even killing any fighters, or just driving Merkavas into empty farms and streets and then getting ambushed by Allah's bravest tracksuit-wearing warriors?

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[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just imagining the Hamas propaganda makers proposing what they are doing now to the higher ups and them just being confused what video game stuff is

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[–] professionalduster@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (5 children)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-67390343

police in the UK have arrested over 80 counter-protesters, who were chanting things such as "you aren't English anymore" to the police

at least 300k people there. look at the pictures, they're pretty incredible

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[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Liking these boat blocking tactics.

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Who will collapse first - Ukraine or Israel?

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[–] geikei@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Anyone here got any good analysis on the situation in Myanmar. Junta seems to be on the back foot and a couple of (pro china) resistance groups with strong maoist roots that have been participating and co-leading some noticable gains lately. But also large part of the conflict is between them and cartel like militias controling ereas of Myanmar? Are they prominent enough ?

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (6 children)

What's the odds of the United Nations going out like the League of Nations?

[–] Cigarette_comedian@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

A non-zero chance for sure. It's such a weak institution that can't even retaliate for their own personnel being slaughtered indescriminantly by one of their member states.

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[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

had a decent conversation with coworkers today about isreal/palestine and geopolitics in general. i had to hide my power level a bit but we talked about differences between anti zionism and anti semitism, i pushed back on the narrative that "muslims and jews just hate each other bro 10000 years constant fighting" by using early iraq and palestine as examples contrary to that, and we even talked about ww3 a third front and even the juxtaposition of all the goons at work wanting to bet on a basketball game on one tv and the genocide on the other.

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Just in case there are any extraterrestrials here on earth and observing us (and checking out this website) but you all some sort of “Prime Directive” a la Star Trek… now would be a really good time to ignore that.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago

A doctor in Gaza...

The scale of the carnage is reshaping Palestinian society as we speak. Middle age grandparents caring for the orphaned toddlers of their slain children.

Nitter

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Whenever my job tries to contact me after hours

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[–] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (6 children)
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[–] Dull_Juice@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago

Thousands of Egyptian fans of the Al-Ahly Football Club, based out of Cairo, chant in solidarity with Palestine.

Breakthrough News on Twitter Nitter

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

CW - IOF body bags

https://streamable.com/sasu6t

Israeli soldier says they have trouble keeping the bodies of their soldiers, they smell very bad even though it has only been 1 day since they died. Notable video I think because of the mention that these were all within 1 day.

[–] artificialset@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago

tired of that dead soldier smell? try dying less pathetic

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hezbollah has accelerated operations yet further today - more anti-tank missile attacks, more drones, more rockets, etc. Up the escalation ladder we climb. This clearly proves that Hezbollah is too weak of a force to counter Israel and is uninterested in a regional war.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago

Couple good military vids today:

  1. Hezbollah takes out an Israeli squadron with a precise long range ATGM:
    https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1723439058167214185?s=20

  2. Al-Qassam does a high speed drive-by on an IDF soldier followed by a clip of an IED explosion taking out a squadron by using a burning car as a lure:
    https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1723449727646122013?s=20

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Thank you, David Frum. I can feel more democracy, more liberty, and more freedom growing in the world!

Did you know that under Biden, U.S. production of artillery shells will more than quadruple?

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

At the top of the hour I checked MSNBC to see what was happening in Gaza. Stupid me - "Remember - these results are preliminary..." They're breathlessly covering the US elections even though nearly all (all?) results are hours away.

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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Biden urged Netanyahu to agree to ‘three-day pause’ in Gaza fighting: Report

The Axios news outlet has reported that the US president made the appeal during a call yesterday with Israel’s prime minister.

Citing an unnamed US official, Axios said the US, Israel and Qatar are discussing a proposal under which “Hamas would release 10-15 hostages and use the three-day pause to verify the identities of all the hostages and deliver a list of names of the people it is holding”.

Two US and Israeli officials also said “Netanyahu told Biden he doesn’t trust Hamas’ intentions and doesn’t believe they are ready to agree to a deal regarding the hostages”.

The Israeli prime minister’s office declined to comment, Axios said, while the White House said it does not comment on Biden’s private conversations.

damn, if only the US had any leverage over them... oh well good thing they tried.

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Newest video of fighting inside Gaza. I spy a tank with a "cope cage" (awful term). Al-Qassam Brigades claiming 13 Merkavas damaged/destroyed so far today. This area seems a little more built up than previous videos. The deeper the IDF ventures into the urban areas, though, the denser the tunnels get and the more fighters can come out and ambush at once. Losses will probably escalate from here.

[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago

When you're defintinely, absolutely "not shooting at the hospital and there is no siege" at the Al-Shifa Hospital. An IDF tweet...

"There is no shooting at the hospital and there is no siege. The East Side of the hospital remains open."

Nitter

There's a IDF turd speaking in Arabic with English subtitles. I wonder what the propaganda is in English language vids.

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