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Fox News host Sean Hannity dedicated a segment of his Thursday show to deliver a message to Pope Leo XIV, suggesting he and others at the Vatican had totally lost sight of the true meaning of the bible and its teachings.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 16 minutes ago

The Christian Nationalist shit for brains are making an attempt to teach religion to Pope Leo. GTFO and these clowns are identical to the Kremlin backed Orthodox lunatics who preach the Ukraine invasion is correct.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 9 points 1 hour ago

President is right Tolkien knows nothing about Middle Earth.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Americas about to get excommunicated at this rate.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

They are already positioning Trump for a religious re-brand when he's out after 2028. He will be the competition for the Pope in the MAGA religion. It's going to be the hottest, richest, most popular religion in the Universe, and Trump is your direct messenger to God.

They were hitting it HARD during the Biden administration, but the media wasn't covering it, of course. They quieted it down a bit when he got re-elected, but now that things are going even worse than predicted, they are ramping up the religious rhetoric again - "You better not mess with Trump, he knows Jesus and God personally."

They probably think that Americans won't have the stomach for prosecuting a genuine religious prophet. Yeah? Watch me.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 3 points 1 hour ago

100 trump coins guarantee a meter squared of land in heaven

[–] CombatWombat@feddit.online 4 points 2 hours ago

I know you meant this comment as a portent of ill tidings, but "out in 2028" and "the media wasn't covering him" just sounds so relaxing, I'm having a hard time getting worked up over it.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 22 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

As an non-American who was baptised Catholic and observing US politics, I've always wondered how could the mostly Protestant, Christian nationalists would work with Catholics. Well, here goes my answer.

Also, I am seeing a repeat of history here. The German Catholics opposed Hitler while it is the Protestants who supported him. Oh how history circles back!

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

Indeed, and that is why The Little Bastard Austrian Corporal made a deal with the Vatican and created the "Reichskonkordat" and it still exists to this very day.

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

As an American raised by evangelical nationalists, I always knew it would go down like this. There’s enough tolerance to function in day to day life but the behind closed doors contempt and downright hate, not for the theology or the scandals that come up, but the plain hate for people being different was instilled almost daily. They’d accept a kindness from a Catholic or Mormon neighbor, smile to their face, then talk shit as soon as they left. The entitlement and sense of superiority while simultaneously being victims is phenomenal. The more they realize they don’t need to rely on a broad idea of “Christianity” to further their agenda the more they’ll turn on every sect that doesn’t fit their idea of “Christianity”. I hope the Mormons are taking notes about the cost of hitching wagons with the evangelicals, cus they really hate you guys.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

That's just people in general.

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 1 points 9 minutes ago

There’s a special kind of superiority for evangelicals like the people who raised me. There’s the hatred of racism, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia- those are often easy to identify at first glance or figure out quickly. They want their white Christian America, and a substantial percentage of Mormons and Catholics are white and “Christian enough” when they need voter and public support. I think Catholics and Mormons have forgotten that the people they’ve been breaking bread with are the descendants of the people who terrorized the Irish and Italian immigrants and ran the Mormons out of New York, the Missouri, and tried to run them out of Idaho. Given time they’d probably turn on each other over Lutherans vs Baptists. They don’t actually want broad white evangelical supremacy, they want themselves alone to be supreme and to be able to tread on anyone else to have their way. They’ll always find an excuse to justify their personal “betterness”, but in fact are just empowering the oligarch class who will always reap the benefits of being above the law.

[–] ecvanalog@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

But it’s not a cult, guys.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Conflicting cults, let them fight

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

That's exactly what I'm hoping for.

[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Not saying the pope is perfect or anything, lotta baggage over there, but Trump is feeling pretty anti-Christy

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I'd say he's more like Moloch.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 27 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

I wonder if gaslighting religion is going to work on the MAGA base, they have to go against what they were taught their whole life now, a really test of the cult loyalty.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I bet Trump is now especially unhappy that the Pope is American otherwise he would be all like "that is what happens when you choose a European/Latin american pope"

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

100% and I think it might have been one of the reason he was chosen. This may legit deprogram some MAGA's into leaving him like the epstine files did.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Sunk Cost!

They've been telling themselves that they're persecuted for so long, the turn to realize they are the baddies would break most people.

They will Kowtow to an all knowing and powerful God that is speaking through the divine Trump (who may or may not be the antichrist). Because that all knowing and all powerful God has chosen to place him there and respecting authority is respecting God.

That trap hasn't sprung but the fear of it brought us to white nationalist storming the Capitol. It's like a cultural poison pill that has been boiled in conspiracy theories since the eighties.

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

MAGA is itself a religion. They are Christian because it gives them an excuse to treat women and dark skinned people badly, not because they believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ.

If they have to choose, MAGA aligns with their beliefs more than a segment of Christianity that many Evangelicals already dislike.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Jesus Christ teaches that when He comes back, He will murder everyone who doesn't bow to Him. He's kind of a dick. There's no good guy in this fight

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

MAGA is itself a religion.

A lot of people don't realise that ideology replaced religion as the source of mass movements. Ever since the rise of liberal individualism and scientific revolution, the role of religion diminished as the glue for community and source of knowledge. This is what Friedrich Nietzsche meant by "God is dead". It is not a coincidence that political movements centred on the mass mobilisation, namely socialism, communism and fascism, have sprung up around the same time.

Unfortunately, we are seeing the same thing unfolding again in our lifetime. The rise of neoliberalism, when Margaret Thatcher declared "there is no society, only individuals", is what initiated the death of community and social cohesion in recent memory. This led to plenty of lonely individuals who are easy preys for the far-right, as was the case before in Germany and Italy.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Ever since the rise of liberal individualism and scientific revolution, the role of religion diminished as the glue for community and source of knowledge.

Catholicism has diminished since The Black Death, liberal individualism and the scientific revolution would have never occurred if the Catholics still owned Europe.

The plague revealed the powerlessness of the faith; in the beginning, Catholics ruled Europe and controlled people from birth to death. After, they never recovered the same authority for obvious reasons.

[–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 17 points 13 hours ago

Well, I'd argue that most of MAGA is evangelical, who tend to view Catholicism as either "fake Christianity" or a kind of quaint remnant of an older time that Protestantism fixed (and evangelicalism perfected). So most of them are already on board with the idea that the Pope is bad.

[–] TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club 2 points 8 hours ago

Yes, because they can twist it to their versions of what ever it is they believe. As long as Trump continues his war on immigration then all will be good amongst the majority of MAGA zealous.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

MAGA churches want to speedrun towards Armageddon. War in the Middle East is what they crave.

[–] TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club 3 points 8 hours ago

Evangelical nut bags vs the literal word of God.

[–] MrRandom@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Iceman@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

And do don't get me started on this Jesus guy!

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So Trump is the anti-pope now?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Keep him out of Avignon though.

[–] Someplaceunknown@leminal.space 16 points 14 hours ago

He's The Fucking Pope, that's like, his whole thing

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