WHY? China SPIES on their Citizens and Commits GENOCIDE!
-People OK with their Tax Dollars funding both Palantir and Israel!
this post was submitted on 17 Apr 2026
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Well there sure has been enough propaganda being pumped out by China to make that bit of a positive bump.
The Chinese government sucks and anyone who needs a reminder just look up what they did to the Uyghurs.
Just becuase the American government also sucks it doesn't make China's government suck any less.
What they did to the Uygurs according to america and their western lapdogs lmao
Yeah all China did was erase their culture "re-educate them" which is some Orwellian shit and as a bonus they steralized a fuck ton of them. I am not a western lapdog but you sure are deepthoatin China's dick ya troll!
yea that's what france did to my grandma and what the nordics did to the sami.
Guess what, nobody got bombed. Comparing that to what's happening in gaza is disguisting and wrong.
China had a problem with violent Muslim extremism in Xinjiang 25-40 years ago.
China started reeducation camps for them.
The US has spent decades bombing and murdering Muslims creating more extremists.
Which one is a better response to violent religious extremism?
Found the human rights abuser!
Hey man it's not my fault my taxes have funded genocide for decades.
You are just here to deny human rights abuses as long as it is your team.
I don't have a team so I don't need to make excuses for fascist shit countries.
I'm not on any nation team. I'm on the human team. If humanity can do better, we should. I live in America, and I've read mostly American history so I'm more aware of our crimes. I don't trust anything our captured media says about the rest of the world.
But you will trust anything China says when it denies its long history of human rights abuses?
Something doesn't add up. I do appreciate your appeal to team human and I agree we can and should do better.
I have studied human rights abuses for over three decades now. I can confidently say no nation except perhaps in ancient history can compare to the US levels of human destruction. If you count environmental destruction then no country in history can come close.
But you will trust anything China says when it denies its long history of human rights abuses?
So the problem with that is that all the accusations of human rights abuses come from the United States, so who am I supposed to trust? I know I can't trust the US, so why should I take the accusations seriously in the first place?
I have studied human rights abuses for over three decades now. I can confidently say no nation except perhaps in ancient history can compare to the US levels of human destruction. If you count environmental destruction then no country in history can come close.
Oh that's cool. What do you do?
I think you are confusing propaganda from the US with numerous investigative reports by reputable journalists and organizations like Amnesty International.
I trust independent reporters who can verify their sources. This is why I believe China has committed numerous human rights violations. They even self admit executing political prisoners.
There really is no question about this and denial basically makes a person a useful idiot. I often see dischenfranchised US citizens looking to other fascist countries like Russia or China for answers. I think the song For What It's Worth about sums it up, "nobody is right if everyone is wrong."
I am a social worker by trade and I have spent my life helping people. I have fought long and hard for dischenfranchised people's rights at steps of my state's capital building. I helped secured the right to gay marriage in Washington State by lobbying my representatives as just one example.
I have been involved in local, state, and federal politics. I have conducted numerous letter writing campaigns that have resulted in political prisoners release. I have been a community organizer and I have gotten laws and policies passed in my city to protect people.
There are so many good ideas out there it isn't funny. There are numerous right ways to do anything and there are creative solutions we still have yet to think of.
I think you are confusing propaganda from the US with numerous investigative reports by reputable journalists and organizations like Amnesty International.
Cool I like to learn. Can you share a few of them?
They even self admit executing political prisoners.
Isn't that better than not admitting to it? Like the US and it's allies?
I often see dischenfranchised US citizens looking to other fascist countries like Russia or China for answers.
So you'll have to back up calling China fascist. That sounds like being a useful idiot for the CIA if you ask me.
I have been involved in local, state, and federal politics. I have conducted numerous letter writing campaigns that have resulted in political prisoners release. I have been a community organizer and I have gotten laws and policies passed in my city to protect people.
So not in China right?
https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/east-asia/china/report-china/
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/china
I am not sure why you would deny China is fascist. Perhaps you are operating on fascism = bad instead of fascism = corporatism. The entire world is pretty much fascist at this point and denying it definitely makes you a useful idiot.
I really think you are being disingenuous at this point. You clearly have picked a side already and that is okay. Have fun with you choosen overlords.
You voted for a genocider, you stupid ass bitch. I knew people in lebannon who died a few weeks before your disguisting country's elections. I hope you see your loved one bombed with white phosphorus so you can hear their scream as their skin's peeling off. Piece of shit
I am half lebanese you jackass. I didn't vote for Trump, most of America didn't and currently he has like 25% support.
There were WAY TOO MANY Middle Eastern Americans that voted for Trump due to a propaganda campaign that claimed he would do better with Gaza than Kamala. You have no idea how many of them I tried to convince not to vote for Trump.
Quit looking at Americans as one single individual.
There were WAY TOO MANY Middle Eastern Americans that voted for Trump due to a propaganda campaign that claimed he would do better with Gaza than Kamala. You have no idea how many of them I tried to convince not to vote for Trump.
Yea no shit, the admin were bombing their family. Are you stupid? How does it feel living in the country that's chemically eradicating your people? Traitor.
It's very tiresome to see Americans turn a blind eye to concentration camps in their own backwards while claiming some moral imperative to liberate Xinjiang.
Or Venezuela. Or North Korea. Or Cuba.
I am not doing that dipshit. You are doing the exact thing I was just talking about. Yes America is a shit show right now that doesn't magically make the Chinese government not suck.
America has concentration camps and is arresting innocent adults and children and filling those camps. It's terrible and it does nothing to make China's government suck less.
Yes America is a shit show right now that doesn’t magically make the Chinese government not suck.
This is Whataboutism!
Whataboutism! Whataboutism! Whataboutism!
America has concentration camps and is arresting innocent adults and children and filling those camps.
Help me. I am a 8 year old boy living in the illegitimate Yankee Capitalist regime. President Xi, our shelves are empty and we are hungry. I am asking you to liberate my state of Connecticut with your Chengdu J-20 Stealth air superiority fighters and your Dongfeng 41 Missiles.
Whataboutism is saying how evil America is and acting like that makes China less bad. Every asshole in these comments acting like China is "less evil" than the United States is barfing out whataboutisms.
Trump is a pedophile. This doesn't make China suck less it just makes America suck more.
They're accusing you of whataboutism ... by using whataboutism. There's nothing to gain in talking to that kind of person.
Whataboutism is saying how evil America is and acting like that makes China less bad.
Aaaaah! My mistake. I didn't realize Whataboutism was America specific. All this time I thought it was a generic rhetorical technique where you try to deflect the blame for your own country's missteps by insisting any other country was worse.
But apparently America is exempt. Perhaps even... exceptional? Is there some kind of American Exceptionalism at play here? One in which America is beyond criticism?
Trump is a pedophile. This doesn’t make China suck less
Okay, but what if the Chinese economy promotes things Americans desire - green alternative energy, public health care and education accessible to residents without respect to income or ethnic background, a near totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry following the collapse of the landlord-backed government?
Would that make China suck less?
TwO ThiNGS CaN Be BAd aT thE SamE TimE. Also iRan killeD 3000000000000 people.
America's just mad because they build de-radicalization camps instead of labeling them terrorists and genociding them.
Lemmy is so full of propaganda I'm getting tired of blocking.
Both the US and China are awful for their own shared and distinct reasons. Anyone who disagrees is either a tankie or a MAGA asshole. That said, no country on the planet is morally perfect.
The point of their deamonization of china is to make them less bad in comparaison. But guess who isn't led by a notorious pedophile? China. Guess who didn't kidnap a head of state? China. Guess who doesn't bomb countries for breakfast? China
let me preface this by saying I hate the direction the U.S. government has taken (both in general and more as of late), but
> "Guess who doesn’t bomb countries for breakfast? China"
[squints]
[looks over at China]
Well, not yet they don't, I guess. But hey, 2026 isn't even half over yet, we still got time to get this world war started proper.
This keeps coming up. Go Google search the last time China used military force to get something done.
Eventually you have to realize the only people who see potential war everywhere are Americans.
China is the fourth largest producer of arms now and sells weapons to war torn regions. Giving China the benefit of the doubt when they are now cranking out more billionaires than the US is a ship that sailed a long time ago.
Trumplethinskin, just like Pooh bear, has designs on neighboring countries. Mr. Pooh himself, "Taiwan independence is the chief culprit in undermining peace in the Taiwan Strait - we will absolutely not tolerate or condone it." Yeah, something an imperialist would say, reminiscemt of Russia and Ukraine.
Refusal to recognize Taiwan's unique culture and self-determination is just another nail in a very large coffin of Chinese Imperialism. While I do applaud them for not directly engaging in military conflict there is little reason to when they can control them politically much in the same way the US controls Mexico or Canada.
make them less bad in comparaison
Okay, but I'm told that's Whataboutism and all Americans are immune to it
But guess who isn’t led by a notorious pedophile? China. Guess who didn’t kidnap a head of state? China. Guess who doesn’t bomb countries for breakfast? China
I'm more than confident that you can find allegations of child sexual assault, kidnapping of rival leaders, and military campaigns against neighbors aimed at China.
yes, keyword being "allegations". Regarding america, we've been past that for a decade
keyword being “allegations”
So, the abduction of Gedhun Choekyi Nyima is more than a mere allegation. Of course, the entire selection process for the Panchen and Dalai Lamas is itself rife with controversy, as it functionally involves randomly selecting some local child and whisking them away from their parents to be indoctrinated by Tibetian monks.
Similarly, there's the open question of Taiwan's sovereignty, as well as a history of Chinese intervention in neighboring territories. Nothing compared to the US decapitation and conquest of Iraq or Afghanistan, of course. But China was absolutely involved in armed conflict with the Vietnamese back in the 1960s/70s.
You can eek out parallels and hand wave comparisons if you know the history well enough and where to look. Chinese private security firms are all over Africa, for instance. Plenty of comparisons you can make between that and the old US/Europe model of filibustering, if you squint and don't think too hard.
TL;DR; its far more than just allegations. The real difference is in scope. US interventions are orders of magnitude larger.
We've been beyond that since founding fathers.
Yeah, europeans too, I'm sure. At least relatively.
China's been doing a masterclass of "don't stop your enemies when they're fucking up".
Well it's not like we can judge