Wow, so being top is not gay enough apparently.
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So bizarre to me. If I were forced to choose "which is gayer" id say the top is the gayest position.
As a hetero id easily be able to take a cock up the ass to avoid getting sent to kill or die. I'd struggle quite a bit more to maintain an erection strong enough to go in a man. Especially with the context motivator in the back of my head.
Modern western ideas where the most important part of sexual orientation is who you find attractive is somewhat new, and while it's gained a lot of popularity among queer people worldwide it's still not the default model everywhere. In a lot of times and places things such as who you have sex with regardless of attraction or what role you take in sex are considered more important (also at what age). Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some people were to see a man who only has receptive sex and exclusively with women as more gay than a man who exclusively tops men.
I also wouldn't be surprised if they're thinking that a straight man might be willing to top a man to get out of the military, but not to bottom
who would have guessed, that a culture that hates woman also hates every feminine act.
ironically the exclusive gay top is the manliest man by that definition, he doesn't even enjoy the softness of women. good=more manly, bad=more feminine.
it all checks out with my experience (no, not sexual) way to many of the second or third generation turks in germany have a completely fucked up view of masculinity and women. gotta look tough all the time! so tough! turkey is the best! erdogan is great! this sub culture was strong when i was in school and is alive and well today
Welcome to the old Greek/romen model! Sexuality is a matter of position and power dynamics. Not sexual attraction.
My Turkish friend says there's a running joke of "The Turkish military has the largest gay porn collection in the world"
it reflects that on the online porn sites
I don't know for sure but "send gay nudes or get drafted" sounds a little gay.
Pumpkin, it's not just any gay nudes of yourself. It's gay nudes with very specific asks. The kinds of asks you might expect from a patron of your OnlyFans account. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I am a bisexual guy from Turkey, this is old news.
From what I heard these days you just go to a psychiatrist and act a bit gay. Then if the psych is not an asshole they give you something called "pink certificate" which makes you exempt from military service.
But like, I would give my nudes to the government if it means not doing military service. Nobody can make me serve for this (or any) country
My compulsory service is currently on hold because I am studying in university. Me and my boyfriend are planning to go the the military psychiatrist together to get pink certificates for both of us. Once we finish uni and gtfo of family home ofc
Based (of you).
Does Turkey not allow for conscientious objection? Or is it just far too difficult to meet their standards?
conscientious objection
In a country where saying anything bad to the flag is a crime, that is literal treason. You'll probably get your citizenship revoked just for asking
glory to the Turkish master race
Apparently it's the gay man that takes it, not the gay man that gives it in Turkey. Wild.
Meh, just archaic. In ye olde times it wasn't gay to fuck, it was gay to be fucked. Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, modern times Turkey, etc.
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I knew it was possible
The hat stays ON during whatever the fuck this is.
Totally not gay.
Finally an ethical application for generative AI
Military recruiters:

Military: Recruiting soldiers. Sorry, no power bottoms.
Soldiers: awwwww :'(
Nah, it says to be excluded you have to be the "passive partner" so power bottoms are still allowed.
The 301st Power Bottom Division was a decorated outfit before the Turkish military instituted this policy.
And the photos must show you as the passive partner
So I guess you and your partner have to switch positions and each have a photo to get out of it. No two for one!
You hear that?! It's only gay if your recieve so you can pound as many man-ass's your dick can handle!
Alternative explanation - the Turkish army is okay with gays as long as they are dominant.
Which... strangely makes sense.
Historically speaking, this isnt wrong.... Im not a historian, but I think its recorded that alexander the great and Julius Ceasar were known to bang dudes, but it wasnt considered gay back then because giving dick wasnt gay, only receiving was...
But what if I get pegged by my gf? Does that count?
Of course the clerical class wants gay porn "for research purposes".
The all-holy ones, who only do holy things to their altar boys.
Turkish government has a history of oppressing Kurdish clergy tbf.
Sounds like Turkish military recruiters have a bit of a fetish ...
I'm not gay, but if taking a few pictures could spare me going to this madness that is military, i'm in!
What if you're not gay just a guy who likes having sex with men
That's the rationalization that MAGAs use to insist that Trump's and Roger Stone's political mentor, Roy Cohn wasn't gay, he just liked to sexually dominate young blond men. That's not gay at all, it's just a power thing.
BTW, just noting that both Trump and Stone were young blond men.
Boner spurs