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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 41 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Wow, so being top is not gay enough apparently.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

So bizarre to me. If I were forced to choose "which is gayer" id say the top is the gayest position.

As a hetero id easily be able to take a cock up the ass to avoid getting sent to kill or die. I'd struggle quite a bit more to maintain an erection strong enough to go in a man. Especially with the context motivator in the back of my head.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Modern western ideas where the most important part of sexual orientation is who you find attractive is somewhat new, and while it's gained a lot of popularity among queer people worldwide it's still not the default model everywhere. In a lot of times and places things such as who you have sex with regardless of attraction or what role you take in sex are considered more important (also at what age). Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some people were to see a man who only has receptive sex and exclusively with women as more gay than a man who exclusively tops men.

I also wouldn't be surprised if they're thinking that a straight man might be willing to top a man to get out of the military, but not to bottom

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

who would have guessed, that a culture that hates woman also hates every feminine act.

ironically the exclusive gay top is the manliest man by that definition, he doesn't even enjoy the softness of women. good=more manly, bad=more feminine.

it all checks out with my experience (no, not sexual) way to many of the second or third generation turks in germany have a completely fucked up view of masculinity and women. gotta look tough all the time! so tough! turkey is the best! erdogan is great! this sub culture was strong when i was in school and is alive and well today

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Welcome to the old Greek/romen model! Sexuality is a matter of position and power dynamics. Not sexual attraction.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My Turkish friend says there's a running joke of "The Turkish military has the largest gay porn collection in the world"

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

it reflects that on the online porn sites

[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 225 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I don't know for sure but "send gay nudes or get drafted" sounds a little gay.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"I'm not gay, but I need to you take some gay photos for me"

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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 50 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Pumpkin, it's not just any gay nudes of yourself. It's gay nudes with very specific asks. The kinds of asks you might expect from a patron of your OnlyFans account. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's something wrong with it if there's a threat involved.

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[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I am a bisexual guy from Turkey, this is old news.

From what I heard these days you just go to a psychiatrist and act a bit gay. Then if the psych is not an asshole they give you something called "pink certificate" which makes you exempt from military service.

But like, I would give my nudes to the government if it means not doing military service. Nobody can make me serve for this (or any) country

My compulsory service is currently on hold because I am studying in university. Me and my boyfriend are planning to go the the military psychiatrist together to get pink certificates for both of us. Once we finish uni and gtfo of family home ofc

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Based (of you).

Does Turkey not allow for conscientious objection? Or is it just far too difficult to meet their standards?

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

conscientious objection

In a country where saying anything bad to the flag is a crime, that is literal treason. You'll probably get your citizenship revoked just for asking

glory to the Turkish master race

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[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 115 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Apparently it's the gay man that takes it, not the gay man that gives it in Turkey. Wild.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 105 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Meh, just archaic. In ye olde times it wasn't gay to fuck, it was gay to be fucked. Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, modern times Turkey, etc.

[–] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 4 days ago (13 children)
[–] lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 41 points 4 days ago

I knew it was possible

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

The hat stays ON during whatever the fuck this is.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Totally not gay.

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[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Roman attitude still persists in the region, I guess?

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[–] yakko@feddit.uk 59 points 4 days ago

Finally an ethical application for generative AI

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 67 points 4 days ago

Military recruiters:
Someone getting hit in the face by a dozen hotdogs

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 62 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Military: Recruiting soldiers. Sorry, no power bottoms.

Soldiers: awwwww :'(

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago

Nah, it says to be excluded you have to be the "passive partner" so power bottoms are still allowed.

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[–] baeb66@lemmy.today 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The 301st Power Bottom Division was a decorated outfit before the Turkish military instituted this policy.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 40 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And the photos must show you as the passive partner

So I guess you and your partner have to switch positions and each have a photo to get out of it. No two for one!

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You hear that?! It's only gay if your recieve so you can pound as many man-ass's your dick can handle!

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Alternative explanation - the Turkish army is okay with gays as long as they are dominant.

Which... strangely makes sense.

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[–] Poojabber@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Historically speaking, this isnt wrong.... Im not a historian, but I think its recorded that alexander the great and Julius Ceasar were known to bang dudes, but it wasnt considered gay back then because giving dick wasnt gay, only receiving was...

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[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So I can't be gay if I'm the one sucking dick?

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[–] troubling087@lemmy.zip 50 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But what if I get pegged by my gf? Does that count?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Inquiring minds want to know.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We need the pics. For Turkey.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Of course the clerical class wants gay porn "for research purposes".

The all-holy ones, who only do holy things to their altar boys.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Turkish government has a history of oppressing Kurdish clergy tbf.

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Sounds like Turkish military recruiters have a bit of a fetish ...

[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I'm not gay, but if taking a few pictures could spare me going to this madness that is military, i'm in!

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What if you're not gay just a guy who likes having sex with men

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's the rationalization that MAGAs use to insist that Trump's and Roger Stone's political mentor, Roy Cohn wasn't gay, he just liked to sexually dominate young blond men. That's not gay at all, it's just a power thing.

BTW, just noting that both Trump and Stone were young blond men.

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Joey, have you ever been to a Turkish recruitment office?

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What kind of tax is this??

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[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I suppose the guy checking the photos was exempt of proof.

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[–] freely1333@reddthat.com 9 points 3 days ago

Boner spurs

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