Don't kid yourselves. Once Europe develops its own big tech, it's going to be just as untrustworthy. But at least it will be your untrustworthy.
this post was submitted on 13 Apr 2026
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For now, the EU has strong data protection laws that the US and China don't have. Although it is true that stupid ideas like Chat Control keep popping up every couple of years.
Ideally, though, you put them in countries close to the EU but not part of it, like Switzerland.
Data control laws to prevent the sale of data not the government use of data.
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It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.
It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.
That's only the excuse the politicians are using. In reality there's a combination of intelligence services and datamining operations pushing for scanning ordinary law-abiding citizens communications.
Europe tech often times are open source with commercial service.
At least it's better than whatever Google, Microsoft, or Tencent.
I honestly feel safer with my data in a foreign authorities hands than domestic.
China can't do dick to me nor should they want to. I'm just a lil guy! The US does nasty things to its citizens on the reg, I don't wanna be caught up in that!
they can do plenty enough to be worried. maybe they can not harm you physically (for now), but by having access to details of the private lives of people, their conversations, and being able to see how they form their opinions, they can use that information to determine how can they reshape public opinion on topics of their interests. this information can be used by themselves, or they can pass it to an ally, and it could be used to change almost anything, like interfere with elections, or further erode the need for privacy so that people are willingly giving up even more data to them
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But > 9/10 Europeans use whastapp / messenger for daily basis.
9/10 european companies decide to use Aws, azure or gcp, instructions of Scaleway or ovh.
9/10 europeans use Chatgpt or Claude instead of mistral or Lumo
Lumo shoutout!
If we’re being real I don’t really trust anyone with my data.
Don't trust anyone, not even yourself.
Full time ass job to keep up with every single security bulletin.
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Send it to me. I'll keep it safe. I promise not to share it.
Still a better deal than what all big tech firms offer.
One year later: I'm changing the conditions of my promise.
Still better. You'll have to promise to share with 180 partners from the get go just to be close to the same level as them. And then do some chicanery.
As an American, I also don’t trust the US firms with my data.
I don't trust anyone with my data. Regardless of their nationality.
Me either, but I also have zero faith in Europe to guard human rights. There are no good guys here.
I'm American and don't trust U.S. firms with data.
To be clear, I also don't trust Chinese firms.
I don't trust my own government, and have no reason to trust anyone else at this point, let alone for profit companies. It's bleak.
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American here, I don't trust US firms with data
I trust they are selling my data to make money, even when I ask them not to.
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I dont trust the US with my data ... or anything. This place is run by literal idiots and/or criminals.
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Joke is on you, I trust no one with my data.
Me neither, not even myself.
I forgot my own name. Can somebody tell me where my home is?
Try Google it, I’m sure they’ll know.
Why on earth would we!? China especially don't have the best track record, and the US is the laughing stock of the world at this point, not to trusted with anything.
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I don't trust politico with my news articles
Lol who trusts any firm with their data?
20% of Europeans
I despise the US from the bottom of my heart, and I am a big China fan, and yet at the same time I don't want anyone to handle our data. We need data sovereignty. Our data stays here and that's it. Not in the US. Not in China. Not anywhere else.
Watching all the new laws spew out in Europe I don't trust them, either.
I'm down to Romania and Iceland, now.
Been dumping German stuff like a plague lately, and already pulled all data out of Canada.
I have one thing in Amsterdam, but their laws have been getting worse and worse, and they're... Nine, I think it is, eyes which is bad for trusting them with your data. Even Switzerland is getting sus af.
How many of those 8 are doing anything, ANYTHING, about it though?
Seems like 2 out of 10 Europeans need to get their head checked.
I'm currently in the process of degoogling. There's a lot to consider.
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The Chinese can do less harm with my data than the US and it's allies.
For now.
The problem is that once it's out there, you can't take it back.
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How about, if your data can be compromised, it's not safe anywhere?
I only trust math with my data (i.e. encryption...)
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