Hope Vance comes to Spain to endorse Feijoo (right) and Abascal (extreme right) too. Everytime he endorses someone, this one loses!
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Wishing for him to come to Sweden and visit our Sweden Democrats.
He could go in a tour around Europe, and start hugging alt right wingers!!!
to be fair they seem to be doing a pretty decent job of getting themselves into jail and ousted from the party
yeah the "one bad apple" party just keeps producing single bad apples
Finally! Congratulations to the Hungarian voters who voted against the fucking Russian and MAGA stooge. Welcome back to the EU!
as a Hungarian I'm over the moon 🎆🎆🎆
as non-Hungarians we're also over the moon 🎆 🎆 🎆
I see many "but he is also far right" comments. Peter Magyar might be on the right side of the scale, but he did not base his program on far right rhetoric at all. Its also impressive how many world class experts Magyar got for his party for major ministry roles. Many businessman and leaders from other sectors. Its a bit similar to the ruling change after the communism ended in Hungary, when instead of politicians, scientists, recognized intellectuals and experts got the ministry roles.
They seems to want to focus on repairing the damage, what Orbans gang caused, getting back all the EU funds and building up basic systems, like education and healthcare from scratch.
I'm part Hungarian and did not have a right to vote, but followed closely the whole thing and it might not look like it, but its a huuuge thing. All my Hungarian friends/colleagues are celebrating, after all they got rid of a cancerous tumor.
i'm assuming he'll just end up being a pretty average european moderate, i.e. absolutely miserable but at least capable of saying (and maybe even believing) the words "killing our own citizens is bad, actually"
Similar to how Zelenskyy's politics are objectively not particularly astounding, but contrasted with the invasion by russia he looks like a holy saint
I'm not aware of the finer details of Magyars platform - What are his plans for all the Orban supporting public servants / judges etc.?
It sounds like root and branch reforms are incoming. It could be a great template for... certain other nations.
Pretty much he promised to get rid of everyone who was an active member of the corrupt system. Also he plans to destroy all propaganda media, and wants to go after the oligarchs as well.
Its a lot and we will se how much he manages to fulfill of the promises, but if they manage to achieve only fractions of it, Hungary will be already a better place.
During his victory speech yesterday he called on them to resign immediately. He also said there would be no mercy only accountability.
I hope that Magyar follows post-far right Poland on dismantling the far right loyalist media and judges.
I see many "but he is also far right" comments.
It's also interesting to note that Orban didn't used to be far right. He was sort of moderate and even on the scholarship program of George Soros back in the day.
Great!
But let's not rest on our laurels.
The next step is getting green and social democratic candidates that will garner attention and excite voters, and have a chance to do a good job that will show people that they need to vote in their best interest and those who will defend them.
Conservative liberals are way better than dictators, particularly when they like to sprinkle social policies like taxing the wealthiest more and using the revenue for public services, but they also tend to do stuff that lets things ratchet back to oligarchy.
We also should get the UK to turn back, and Poland, Italy and others to wake up too. And many are still in the edge.
I know! Let's get Vance to do a tour through Europe! Having him endorse all the people he likes the most! That'll show the people who they can't trust.

Lovely work! So much appeal!
Oh and the lady character and the goose are cute too! :p
This post has been on the top of my home feed all day and it brought a smile to my face every time I opened Lemmy lol
Been thinking a lot about the, "you can't vote your way out if this," doomer leftists today.
another far right candidate won… coming from the same party originally
Hungary went from lime to lemon… don't get me wrong, this is a tiny hint forward but by no means is Hungary "out"
He's mostly been described as centre right, but we'll see. If he's not beholden to Russia and not massively corrupt, then that's a huge step. If they then undo the damage done by Orbán to the constitution and institutions of Hungary, then there will be a way forward.
Right wing? It is smack in the center.
The tisza party has published their policy plans. (full version pdf: https://magyartisza.hu/program)
Here are the left-wing ones:
Economic Justice and Redistribution
Reduce minimum wage tax from 15% to 9%.
Lower income tax for workers earning below the median wage.
Tax the super-rich with a 1% annual wealth tax on assets over 1 billion HUF.
Cut VAT on firewood, healthy food, and prescription medicines.
Expanded Social Safety Net
Double family allowances, maternity support, and childcare benefits.
Guarantee a minimum pension of 120,000 HUF per month.
Provide "Pensioner SZÉP Cards" with up to 200,000 HUF in annual support.
Increase home care fees by 50% for family caregivers.
Give a "Newborn Kit" worth 50,000 HUF to every baby.
Labor and Public Sector Support
Increase pay by 25% for social sector and educational assistants.
Strengthen union rights and rebuild national social dialogue.
Enforce equal pay for equal work between men and women.
Public Goods and Equality
Establish independent ministries for Healthcare and Education.
Maintain tuition-free first university degrees.
Build social rental housing and more student dormitories.
End period poverty by providing free hygiene products in state schools.
Fund Roma integration through school buses and new scholarships.
State-Led Public Services
Nationalize debt enforcement and make it non-profit.
Take over company liquidations to ensure a non-profit, transparent process
right wing has a lot if colors. He’s far from a republican right wing extremist
thing is, you're comparing to america. America can't vote their way out of their situation because the whole system is set up to prevent it, it would take decades of dedicated work to undo the conditioning of the populace and start making it even remotely feasible for an actual good candidate to be elected.
Now, that's not to say that america can't vote their way out of things on a local level, that's actually one of the best bets available to them, but still even then Zohran's victory in NYC (which by all accounts was kind of revolutionary) was only with him getting 50% of votes. The democrats did everything they could to keep a notorious sexual harasser in power instead.
Well, first of all, no I'm not just talking about America. There are tons of leftists on here who argue that voting is hopeless any time an authoritarian rises to power, and seem to believe the only solution is a violent revolution that they are not planning (not that I'm trying to bait anyone or fed-posting, but I doubt the people spending 16 hours a day debating Neo-Marxism versus Anarchist Communism are also forming a militia).
Second of all, you're saying that the American system is set up to prevent voting out fascism, but what you're describing is learned helplessness, not institutional restrictions. Learned helplessness is powerful, but I'm rapidly seeing it being unlearned since Trump took office. Republicans who've been ignoring economic issues for identity politics suddenly seem sick of hearing about wokeness. Liberal wine moms who held up, "But her emails," signs in 2017 want Chuck Schumer's blood. The other day I saw the fucking Mueller She Wrote account slamming Dick Durbin for saying, "reform," ICE instead, "abolish."
In terms of the institutions, there are a lot of measures against direct democracy that make reforms more difficult, but the structure of our elections have huge advantages. The constitution gives power of our federal elections squarely with the states, which is why Trump is having so much trouble rigging the elections. His current plan seems to be, "send ICE to intimidate voters," and based on Minneapolis, that's not an effective strategy.
Even the bigger obstacles are mostly imaginary. Congressional gridlock can easily be overcome by leadership willing to abolish the filibuster. Supreme Court members can be impeached, and the Court can be expanded by Congress. There are institutional, Democratic solutions to this, we just have to stop pretending they're too difficult.
Most important: it's even a 2/3 majority. Without that, Orban could have still blocked most of the changes. Now, he cannot.
One fascist less. Congratulations to Hungary!
Hopefully they will be able to fund Ukraine now and kick Russia the fuck out of Europe.
After Trumps election it is good to see, that democracy still can do good for the people
Now do Putin
This does give me a small sliver of hope.
Ah, what's that? The taste of authoritanism tumbling down? Can you hear the pitchforks yet?
Glad to hear this good news.
But also, Politico is a shit rag. Don't link to them.
Man its really hard to enjoy good news these days when you know the grim reality of your own country's future... and what could have been.