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I’m on the other side, wondering where everyone is

We’re bogged down in so much misery, so much self-destructive behavior, so many exploiters and scams, so many people in desperate circumstances …. But Artemis (and similar) is meeting a challenge, doing the impossible, setting a vision of a greater humanity, shifting civilization forward. It’s a reason to live, to hope, to be optimistic, and probably benefits even the most desperate by shifting society forward.

So basically it gives life aid to capitalism and will let us destroy planet some more. Even worse.

It's been overshadowed by other current events. Quite a shame, really

I'm finding it hard to be happy about any of the positives coming from the US government these days. A couple of bright spots don't really outshine the depressing everything else.

It's hard to be excited about going to space when you can't afford to exist on earth.

I should be way more excited, but the current administration has ruined everything. NASA is too focused on creating a moon base which is dumb as shit. Let's try and save earth before jumping ship to another planet.

I love space and discovery. I also dont super care about this because what is even the point of it? We did a fly around of a rock in our backyard we know super well already. Give me more JWST, not this

I feel oddly similar. I think it's that I can't cheer for America.

for me, it’s the fact that it’s being used as a political tool by the usa to broadcast their prowess, that it’s being presented as a hopeful look in the future all the while the country running this is bombing and murdering hundreds of thousands, and that the companies benefitting from artemis’s publicity are mostly "defense" contractors like spacex and lockheed-martin, aka again the same people doing all the genocide

it’s hard to feel excited about it even tho there is plenty of cool science being done, that cool science stands on a mountain of tragedy and horrors

for me its not only the glacier pace of progress.. its also the lack of scientific motivation.

this didnt happen for science... its a political tool

I don't care about it because it's a NASA mission and I've noticed that anything American these days makes me nauseous.

Call me anything you like, I don't care, this is how o feel after years of america bullshit and decades of more murrica bullshit with their preprogrammed exceptionalism.

I look down upon them, I pity them at best

And then there is something as great as this and I just can help but feel like it's tainted somehow. I know it's an international collaboration, but still, the smell somehow remains

I'm sorry, but fuck, so much misery and death and suffering has been brought to the world by the US for so long already... Trump is just the next iteration taking this place to its natural conclusion. Of course trump is corrupt, the country has been through and through corrupt for decades. This is just a typical self absorbed American grabbing the chance geven to get me myself and I to the top.

So yeah, mixed feelings at best.

I feel the same apathetic "whatever" response. I love rockets. I love space. I struggle to care about this.

The program is almost 2 decades late and using recycled technology. It is literally using spare parts from the shuttle. I don't believe it will ever actually get to the boots on the ground phase. I am actually surprised they made it to this mission. After all the boondoggle from Boeing I really thought it would die a quiet death somewhere out of sight.

Not only do they have technical hurdles, we have seen normally safe agencies become political battle grounds. We see science becoming less and less important at every level of society. We are living through Idiocracy and they still act like we are the same country that went to the moon the last time.

If we see people on the moon in our lifetime I don't believe they will arrive on a NASA mission.

I don't care because it doesn't seem like a genuine mission to prove something. It feels like a purely political stunt. At least with the original mission, it was breaking a frontier on top of trying ot show off to Russia during the Cold War, but this time it's only the US flexing as mandated by the Orangegutan in Charge because he can and it feels icky.

For me, I just don’t see it as the step towards a bright future that it cone was.

So we reinvigorate the world’s interest in space missions, then what? Every iota of evidence from our own planet tells us that businesses are going to own the moon, mars, and beyond. Wayland-Yutani is more likely than The Federation.

I just can’t get excited about another frontier for Musk and Bezos to rub their stanky dicks all over.

In all honesty at this stage it's not that exciting. They're hyping up people going further from the earth than ever before, which is technically true, but astronauts have orbited the moon before just not quite as far in absolute distance.

So this is mostly doing something done before in the 70s. Rocket launches, grainy images of the moon from close up, photos of earth from near the moon and astronauts floating in zero G isn't new.

I don't blame you for not getting excited to watch long videos where not a lot happens very slowly, or reading press coverage which is brutally honest largely fluff.

The ultimate goal is exciting, but that doesn't mean every step on the way is exciting. I suspect the first moon landing will be of more interest, then the next one will not be, even though the landings are a stepping stone to Mars.

We can't even wipe our own asses without jihading or reinstating a cool new kind of slavery with extra steps. What are we going to do with a new frontier?

Because you can see it for the distraction that it is. In a vacuum it is a wonderful or at least interesting and significant thing but it is also clear that it's just a PR stunt by the US government.

That's not to belittle the training, dedication, preparation, and everything else that was done by all of the people around adjacent to or even inside the rocket. The indictment is not on them.

We have so much problems down here on Earth that Artemis seems like a smokescreen. I see no way it could benefit humanity.

I think actually watching some of the video would help with that. I watched some video of events while they were up there, what they were feeling and how much they obviously cared about each other and what they were doing.

Tonight I watched the splashdown and felt unexpectedly emotional about it, not sure whether it was contemplating the enormity of the achievement, or the display of the good and smart and positive side of humans working together to do something big again instead of the constant drumbeat of destruction, or maybe just that we didn't have yet another disaster.