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God, if there was only one AI thing that really drives me up the wall, it has to be those frickin’ AI voices. They make a video literally unwatchable for me.
I saw an odd pattern that probably has an easy explanation (views). While I was looking for reviews of a certain newly launched car model, I saw A LOT of videos where all they did was repeat the manufacturer-supplied information with stock photos and videos from the manufacturer, using those gaudy and cringe-worthy AI voice overs, while providing nothing new or of substance. They weren’t reviews, they were just… telling us the same thing we already knew. Like, those videos existed for the sake of existing.
The funniest part were all the generic channel names. Auto Review, Car News Now, Gear Review, random stuff like that.
It is some of the laziest and most… cash-grabby type of thing and I found it so weird and annoying. I think it’s meant as a cheap and fast way to get views without doing any actual work, but the algorithm wasn’t favouring them. I don’t think I saw a single one of those videos listed with more than 1,000 views. Many had less than 100 views, and that was despite being uploaded days or weeks prior to the search. They probably just asked some AI “make a script about such-and-such car”, copy-pasted whatever it threw out without even looking at it, made the AI read it, and called it a day. Wow, such value.
Like, I don’t really like my own voice if I’m being honest, but I’d rather read a script myself than make an AI do it. It’s authentic.
I used FreeTube to search for reviews for that car, and I don’t think it favours YouTube’s algorithm as much, so I was seeing weird nonsense like that. And there was just so much of it, it made it hard to find actual good content when I had to weed through all that sloppy nonsense. Like, for every legit video made by someone who could actually see and drive the car, there were probably five or six slop videos.
Click Dislike, Close it, Click “do not recommend channel”
Shame youtube removed the like/dislike ratio which we previously used for mass protest against video authors for their wrongdoings. Channels can now shovel shit onto us with no public humiliation inflicted on them in return.
Don't dislike. Engagement promotes the video. Comments, likes, subs, shares, and dislikes all tell the algorithm to promote the video.
Don’t click dislike, it does nothing except promote the channel.
Gets it out of the way of my recommends. I particularly like the way it recommends videos in channels I'm already subscribed to. No, wait. I hate that.
That’s very funny cause I’m watching jack and z8 right now. I do wonder if it’s above a certain rate though. He should make a video that tells people born in the first half of the year to upvote and the second half to downvote. See what happens then. Or first three months, last 9 etc.
Ai voice: "here's why the government doesn't want you to have this technology"
Come to nebula.
No AI voices there.
Expect it's a empty devoid worthless cuck club of invite only nothingness.
There's literally no upside to the concept.
But some categories are completely devoid of content because its an invite only platform
Suit yourself but I think it makes Nebula have better quality. It's quality over quantity.
Yes, that's how you keep AI slop out.
I didn't have an invite i just joined through Jacob Geller's YouTube channel
Invite for the creators.
That makes sense
For the creators?
Yes. Viewers are open signup.
Or means.tv, a creator owned platform.
That looks just like nebula (also a creator-owned platform), but with exclusively communist content.
Can't say, never tried it, just know that it's creator owned and doesn't have any AI voiced content.
Is nebula not a subscription only platform?
Yes. But also entirely ad-free, and with lots of quality creators. And it's quite a bit cheaper than pretty much any other streaming service.
I wasn't criticizing, just checking to make sure I had the right one. I can't really afford to do even more subscriptions, but maybe one day if I ever get back into the 'youtube style thing' in the future.
Do you also need an invite?
No need for an invite. Creators need to be invited to join the platform. So not just anyone can post their content there. A thing missing from Nebula is gaming content, like gameplays, etc., but it's a curated list of creators that put out generally quality stuff.
I paid for the lifetime subscription assuming it's been around for like 3 years, I reckon it'll be around 3 more and I don't want to deal with another monthly sub. I really like Jet Lag, I find it just the right amount of neurodivergent fun and competitive and chill. I also watch channels like Wendover, Not Just Bikes, and Real Life Lore. They are all on Nebula and I assume my sub is somehow divided up equitably, although I haven't looked into it. I also hope some of the money I paid goes to people who I haven't heard of or watched yet but I might like to watch in the future.
Is it better than YouTube...no. But it doesn't have to be, it is serving a different use case. I know when I open Nebula that I'll find something worth watching with no slop and a lot less money going to multinational corporations. They still have servers that need hosting so some money has to go to corporations but I'm not paying a trillion dollar company directly which feels nice.
Yes.
I have been on the edge for a while now, I'll probably end up at least trying it after my vacation. Do you really think it's worth the subscription price?
To me it's definitely worth it. Many of my favorite creators are already on there. I get exclusives and early releases, high definition, and no ads. And the nice fuzzy feeling of knowing that my views result in the creator receiving some actual money.
I still use YouTube quite a lot... But I find that I'm using Nebula more and more as time goes by.
Alright, thanks for taking the time to comment. As I said, I'm pretty much already going to give it a go, but hearing people's thoughts on it is appreciated. The thing about actually knowing you're contributing to paying the people whose content you like does sound appealing.
Depends what you want out of it.
I'm not aware of any content on nebula that isn't also on YouTube.
So if you're happy with the YouTube experience, probably not.
I joined when Tom Scott started posting his new videos there one week earlier than YouTube, and offered a discount code for 50% off for the first year.
1 year for the price of three drinks at a bar is worth it to me.
I was sick of clicking on an interesting-looking video in the YT feed that turned out to be AI slop or rage bait.
And the autoplay of the next video the algorithm chooses annoyed me, too. YT was also the last Google service I still used, so ditching it felt good.
Plus, my favorite creator Real Time History thanks people watching on nebula at the end of each video, saying "We couldn't do it without you", which makes me all fuzzy inside.
There’s a lot of content that’s just on nebula not YouTube, but it’s mostly long form stuff. There’s a whole section at the top titled “Only on Nebula”.
Yeah, I think YouTube will be the last Google service I let go also, a lot of content I enjoy is the exclusively there as far as I know. But I have also decided to get rid of Google, meta and such as thoroughly as I can, so I do hope some combination of nebula, peertube and/or whatever else google free I can find will suffice. I am mostly annoyed by the similar things you were when it comes to yt. Thanks for the Tom Scott shoutout, I wasn't aware he started making new stuff. You'd think YouTube algorithms would let me know lol.
Do you watch a lot of YouTube and at least a few are saying they are on Nebula? Then absolutely
I got it, then saw that its app sucked, then stopped using it for months despite having a valid subscription, then found the Gray Jay app, then found that I can queue all my videos together seamlessly in an excellent player and now slowly I'm watching more and more Nebula content and cutting out more and more YouTube content.
Nebula has a lot of stuff I like (long form, deep dive, factual, analytic videos). Now that my videos across platforms can be in one place, its easier to accept the more limited selection on Nebula. As I find more stuff on Nebula and unsubscribe from more stuff on YouTube, my whole video stream diet is getting better and better. The value of Nebula is slowly increasing for me. I wouldn't have continued at all or renewed my subscription if I was using their default app and going between multiple apps for my video streams; and if that was the case it had been much easier for me to stick with YouTube and Newpipe app.
Search for information. Get reddit with a mix of bot posts and a long list of Ai generated sites that don't even make sense.
See link with interesting title.
Look at actual domain, if it's *tube/invidious immediately skip over link.
Click, see it's loading (any) video site.
Immediately close page.
Skipping some steps here, usually fast enough that you don't even have to hear voice.
If you won't write it out in text, it's not worth receiving the information.
Fastest slop detector in this side of the Mississippi.
I prefer normal text-to-speech (with subtitles ideally) if the person making the video can't speak themselves. Vocaloids/UTAUs can also be used for voicing but I imagine that's a lot of tedious work. They can also pay someone or ask a friend to voice their script for them.
AI generated voices are a sign that the whole thing is slop. Not worth watching. Same applies for AI generated thumbnails.
What about strictly TTS models, which would probably be lumped under ANI (artificial narrow intelligence), which has been around a long time? There's cloud based ones, but also some good local ones. Throwing out the content just because of how the voice is made is one level from doing that because a person sounds funny, ot looks a certain way. Which is fitting, since that's probably why some of them use TTS, to avoid comments that attack them personally.
I am actually so thankful for the AI voices.
I used to feel guilty for dismissing videos with thick accents because I couldn't tell if it was the content was trash or I just couldn't understand the accent.
Now with AI voices I can confirm that the content was indeed just trash.
I know at least one channel that does so because they have a thick accent. Not all AI voices are bad
I would frankly prefer a thick accent, and some subtitles... Even AI generated subtitles with a quick proofread pass, is vastly superior to AI voices IMO
What if it had auto-translation on?
My great grandpa used to call me chicken cock Santa until I asked him to stop and then he just stopped.
Ok, I'll be the one to ask. Why?
Because he understood that I didn't like it and respected my wishes to not be called that
I think you're kind of burying the lede here brah.