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Sam Altman, OpenAI’s CEO and the public face of ChatGPT, has carved out an image for himself as one of the preeminent AI whisperers of our age, whose influence supposedly extends to the White House on the strength of his ideas alone.

Or at least that’s the image he’s managed to cultivate. A new exposé in the New Yorker paints a different portrait, and it’s substantially more vexing. Drawing on interviews with numerous OpenAI insiders who worked with Altman, the article portrays the CEO not as a technical wiz, but as a skilled manipulator— and one with a surprisingly shallow grasp of the AI systems his company is building.

According to numerous engineers interviewed for the article, Altman lacks experience in both programming and in machine learning — a shortage of expertise that becomes obvious when the CEO mixes up basic AI terms.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 38 minutes ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago)

hes basically the version of Musk for AI/coding. plus the trifecta of scammers came from the same place, paypal, thiel and musk, and altman and thiel's gay pool parties.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 55 minutes ago

AI guy is bad at coding

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[–] arc99@lemmy.world 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That doesn't surprise me. The guy is and always has been a grifter.

[–] Napster153@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I'm more asking what lineage he was birthed from to be in the exact right place to screw over tech development for everyone

[–] neuromorph@lemmy.world 75 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

So the typical Tech CEO. What's new?

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 32 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Not only have I (25 year programming vet) never had a CEO who could code, I've never had a CEO who thought he should be able to code. As a species, they tend to be proud of their leadership chops rather than their ability to actually do anything.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No C-Suite suit I’ve ever met in my life has struck me as a leader type. I know there’s some out there but they all think that being in charge makes them leaders.

Yeah, I should have put "leadership" in ironic quotes. Like they say: don't step in the leadership.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago

Pretty much. These guys are all marketing with not so much understanding of the tech their hawking

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 29 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Why is this framed as if it's in any way surprising?

has carved out an image for himself as one of the preeminent AI whisperers of our age

Has he? The only things I ever read about him are that he's a dunce with too much money at his disposal.

a shortage of expertise that becomes obvious when the CEO mixes up basic AI terms.

Is that why he thinks the acronym "GPT" is a trademark that belongs to his company, even though it existed before they did?

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[–] paranoia@feddit.dk 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (4 children)

I don't expect a CEO to do any coding. I also don't expect a CEO to be as much of an expert as the PhD level computer scientists, machine learning experts, professors of psychology, neurology, ethics, etc., that his company is employing. It is not possible or even relevant for him to have those skills to the level of the top academics that work for him.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago

Exactly, that's AI's job.

[–] itistime 16 points 8 hours ago

A CEO who is clueless about their organization’s nature is at an enormous disadvantage. I think it is too common now. Part of the reason so much sucks ass

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

I expect any CEO to be a worthless chode that has stepped on everyone en route to the top.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Are you a Boeing executive, by any chance?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 hours ago

Anyone can be rich if born to the right parents.

[–] SanicHegehog@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Elon presents himself as an elite coder and tech savant, and it sounds like his teams have to work around his hubris to prevent him from damaging things. I don’t know how Altman presents himself. More important to understand what your role is. His seems to be manipulating Trump, raising money, and evangelizing AI.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

The good thing he does for their engineer team in general is to be willing to use a white sheet design and not be forced to use legacy shuttle components.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 27 points 12 hours ago

Altman is just another tech bro dropout who never completed anything, similar to Musk.

But the skills required to be a CEO are that of a skilled manipulator, why would a CEO waste time coding when he can hire meatbags to do that? The nature of US startups benefits con artists and bullshit artists, because the VC money community is not the STEM community.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 hours ago

This guys a fucking psycho for real. Another robot man with too much money for his own good, or anyone’s good, really.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago

Least surprising thing I've read about him

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 230 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

CEOs are required to be skilled manipulators. That's literally what their job is, actually.

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 87 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

So AI could do their job 10x better?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 37 minutes ago

in idiocracy the AI replaced any and all bosses int he future, that includes ceos.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Unironically yes.

90% of what CEOs do is talk to other CEOs and other C Suite members. Very rarely are they actually subject matter experts, those days are long gone. Externally, they are mascots, internally, they read reports from their underlings and then 'make the final call'.

You may notice that these are things that LLMs actually do a somewhat decent job of, ingesting a wide variety of input info, and essentially transforming it into a compelling narrative.

This is why so many CEOs and C suite are so enamored with, and impressed by 'AI':

Its a better version of what they do, which is essentially professional gaslighting.

C suite tend to be sociopathic narcissists.

This is just literally a verified and studied fact.

So, the sociopathic narcissists are impressed by an automagic gaslighting machine, that is often actually more factually corrrect than they are... but of course the actual facts don't matter to a narcissist, what matters is accomplishing their will.

This is a big part of why they genuienly do not understand why everyone else doesn't 'appreciate' AI the way they do.

They're out of touch, delusional, by way of narcissism.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 48 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's what ppl keep saying. Effectively they are overpaid mascot.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 35 minutes ago

they are the patsies for the board of the directors usually they have the power,and act as lightning rods, its a plus if they use woman to take the flack (aka glass cliff)

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (5 children)

Having been in Tech in the last Tech Boom and also in this later one (I was even in Startups some years ago), I can tell you that whilst the previous one was mainly driven by Techies wanting do cool things, this one is entirely driven by grifters with backgrounds in areas like Finance and Marketing.

The present generation of Startup Founders are almost never Technically skilled, rather they're skilled at Salesmanship (most notably, Pitching) and they don't dream of cracking some complex problem, they dream about making a lot of money via an Exit Strategy.

The only surprising thing about Altman not understanding Technology in depth is people being surprised by it.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

this one is entirely driven by grifters with backgrounds in areas like Finance and Marketing

I worked for startups in the '90s and this describes all of them, too.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 126 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (6 children)

Why do people think that the CEO is like the "best employee" at what the company does?? No CEO at any company I've ever worked at has had a basic understanding of the work that I did. They understand "the business" but aren't the ones doing implementation.

And that's "fine" - we have different jobs. Theirs, apparently, has been worth millions of times what I do though...

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 2 points 7 hours ago

I mean duh. Obviously the guy who barks orders he has no comprehension of is worth millions of times what the people actually doing the work are. Isn’t it obvious? How would a bunch of engineers have a functioning product without a useless figurehead?

[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 59 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I have a CEO that I respect. I'm in an engineering heavy company and the CEO is anything but that, and he knows it. His background is finance and that's most of his job, and interfacing with government. He delegates effectively and does not insert himself in technical decisions. The one thing he does do is ask a lot of questions. In some respect he doesn't care what the answer is, but he wants to know that we've considered all the angles before he takes our advice. I've been pulled in to a boardroom before because something was on his mind that he wanted to share. One occasion he told me to think about it. He didn't want me to follow up with him, but when it came up at a board meeting he wanted the COO to have an answer, so he was flagging the issue for me. Good guy.

[–] shirasho@feddit.online 28 points 17 hours ago

This is what a CEO is supposed to do. They are the glue between every department and are supposed to make sure that everyone is on the same page. They ask "what is needed for us to get to this point and how can I help". They leave all functional details to the subject matter experts. They act as guide rails and do not derail the train.

Good CEOs understand that they are worth less than their employees because without their expertise and domain knowledge the CEO has no product to sell.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 27 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It's not surprising.

There are brain damaged people out there who still think Elon Musk is a good engineer.

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 12 points 15 hours ago

At my old company of about 20,000 employees, our CEO used to travel between our regions to give speeches at our work gatherings. So we'd have to listen to him talk every year or so.

I was constantly amazed listening to the bullshit this guy would spew. He literally founded the company and led it for 20 years - but I firmly believe he had absolutely no idea what it was that we actually did.

We were an IT and management consulting company, so we'd be doing stuff like building applications, systems integrations, change management, or managing programs. The usually consulting shit.

This dude would give these speeches like we were out there solving world hunger.

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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Predictable

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Why would a CEO have to know how to code? OpenAI has a marketcap of $852B, he can hire has many programmers as the company needs.

[–] Glemek@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

OpenAI isn't publicly traded, they don't have a market cap.

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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Because when you're in a small, scrappy tech startup, everyone is expected to contribute. It is only when the company launches and the founding CEO leaves so that a professional CEO can take over that you would not expect them not to have to code.

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[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The way I see it, people pushing for AI and robots are the unskilled billionaires who don't want to pay the skilled for their work. Billionaires are useless.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 66 points 20 hours ago

has carved out an image for himself as one of the preeminent AI whisperers of our age,

The media keeps glazing him, because he keeps spending money on PR firms so that happens

If everyone keeps saying a capitalist CEO is a once in a life super genius....

The reason is so people invest in that company, not that the CEO is actually intelligent.

It's the same shit Musk went thru, so people have no excuse falling for it again.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 25 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I think a good CEO should strive to understand as much of a business he runs as possible. But the larger the company the more I find that it's common that the CEO actually is NOT skilled in the fields most integral to the company's success.

AMD has Lisa Su, but that seems like an exception more than a rule.

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