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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 30 minutes ago

True. Now give me all you money, comrade

[–] Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I would like to quit living in poverty where can I sign?

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

How did you come up with that question?

It was a request

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The constitutional right to basic living necessities; food, water, shelter, and medical treatment. Capitalism would still be there, but anyone could fall back on these "minimums" whenever they wanted ... no questions asked.

Is that "left of leftist"?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No, that's modern social democracy, which is generally considered fairly centrist. The issue with that is that capitalism still allows massive accumulation of power into the hands of individuals who can they leverage that power in an oppressive manner which is difficult to combat by ordinary folk.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 24 minutes ago

They will just roll it back eventually.

I would honestly just start making so much of my own stuff for just myself, do only gig work for the occasional extra, produce and sell food. If everyone did as I did, we would only have the bare minimum alright...

[–] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago
[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The next line should read

Liberals: "You're not who I'm trying to convince."

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Followed by

Leftists: “We’re trying to convince you

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. There will always be a more ideal goal. If you refuse to work towards something that's actually achievable because you want more, well, that's why leftists fight each other more than fighting the fascists that have taken over the usa and are well on the way to taking over the rest of the world too.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t let lesser be the enemy of what’s right. There will always be liberals seeking compromise on the right thing, and they’re wrong. That’s why the left fights and resists these right wing half measures.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That’s why the left fights and resists these right wing half measures.

But historically, leftists in the strongest age of labor agitation have supported 'half-measures' that didn't bring about full socialism.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 points 12 minutes ago

And that's why many leftist don't like the half-measures

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

WHERE DID LIBERALS SIT IN THE ASSEMBLEE NATIONALE DURING THE FRENCH REVOLUTION? TO THE LEFT OR TO THE RIGHT?????

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, this is both true and pointless. Left and right are usually relative positions.

In the 18th century, abolition of feudalism was a distinctly and uniquely leftist position. Now it would be hard to find even right-wingers who are (at least formally) for feudal privileges.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's relevant because it goes to the foundation of the word "left" and "leftism". To claim otherwise is to misunderstand its very meaning.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

TIL that only anciene royalists are right wing. You can't claim otherwise, that's what it means.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

That IS what it meant. And if you read conservative monarchists like Edmund Burke, and his critique of the French Revolution, the criticism he presents is that. The Right. In support of monarchy for stability, much like Hobbes' Leviathan. Whereas classical liberalism was republican (with a little r), meaning equality under the law regardless of one's caste position. And if you go to Marx, I mean actually read the essays he and Engles wrote, you'll see he actually promoted democratic freedoms and worker owned coops. Not state communism. He'd have considered Leninism and particularly Stalinism and Maoism to be abhorrent. Because.... hear me out here, because dictatorships are but many forms of Kingship and monarchy. Which Marx OPPOSED.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Giving real "party of Lincoln" vibes 🙄

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

No. It's fucking history.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 8 points 18 hours ago

Proper leftist argument that glitches liberals’ material conditions:

Don't force poverty on the incapable to overperform you.

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