Who Are the Good Guys Again?
Nobody this time. Especially those holding absolute power.
this post was submitted on 07 Apr 2026
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While the war in Iran should not be happening remember that at Rimpac they were doing live fire excercises and not US and Iranian ships attended, this means that while tragic the ship was not unarmed. I keep seeing some factual errors repeated to try and make things sound worse than they are leading to easy dismissal of arguments due to factual errors and complete dismissal of the point.
The US have never been 'the good guys'.
Unfortunately what is allowed in war is still pretty brutal. This was a warship and it would be a legitimate target from the moment the war started, without exception.
Let's focus on the actual war crimes, like the Pentagon redefining "military target" to include destroying energy, food, and fresh water infrastructure because soldiers need to drink water too... Hitting those targets would still be a war crime, the Pentagon is not the arbiter of what is and isn't a military target.
Kinda thinking about leaving the USA at this point.
How did it "send the helicopter flight deck metres into the air" and the broken legs of people who were onboard is somehow "mysterious"? They put a shitload of energy at the bottom of it, and it went up. Legs are closer to the floor. Was this written by an idiot?
The rescuers didn't know that at the time. It was right there in both the post and the full article.
If it was unarmed they could have effortlessly captured it. Imo this is just going to crystallize US opposition.
America and Israel are the common enemies of humanity
Add Russia to that
China and North Korea too while at it, please?
Yeah, they’re not attacking anyone at the moment. Let’s hope they don’t join the club soon
"I went to RIMPAC, and all I got was this lousy ~~t-shirt~~ bullet in my back"
Hegseth and trump playing with lethal toys like a sociopath torturing animals.
A non-hostile ship being targeted because “Just do it and see what happens. “
And the biggest stupidity is having an easy target to seize, as a ship from a nation they are at war, they chose to sink it committing a war crime.
Mark my words, by the end of Trump's term the United States is going to have no allies left in the entire world.
Hell, we barely have any left as it is now.
comment Africa comment in articles in the WSJ saying the US has only "fair weather allies" and it's good they show how useless they are now so the US can discard them.
exactly 0 self awareness.
...Is there an implication of the broken legs I'm missing?
Wikipedia has a video of the blast. Imagine standing on deck when the torpedo exploded and you'll understand why there were broken legs.
Oh, I understand why, I was wondering if pointing it out was supposed to imply something else I wasn't getting.
There is something else which explains the word "mysterious" -- the last time a torpedo was used on a ship/boat was WW2, so because the rescuers were not familar with those type of injuries (as no one had seen them since 1945) is why they called them mysterious.
Wasn't the Belgrano sunk by torpedo?
Yes. Although it is perhaps relevant that Belgrano was of WW2 vintage, and Conqueror sank it with a torpedo that was first introduced in the 1920s, so a very different level of damage.
You're right.
(The Belgrano) was the first ship to have been sunk during military operations by a nuclear-powered submarine (the second being the Iranian IRIS Dena, which was sunk by the American submarine USS Charlotte during the 2026 Iran war) and the second sunk in action by any type of submarine since World War II (the first being the Indian frigate INS Khukri, sunk by the Pakistani submarine PNS Hangor during the India–Pakistan war of 1971).
How I read that is that it's most likely that an explosion from below (torpedo) was the type of attack used.
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The US has been the main villain ever since they inherited the role from the British. None of this is surprising if you've been paying attention.
Hey, we were happy dicking around in our own backyard for the first 150 years or so. We even attacked ourselves, we were so bored.
Then you people asked us to join WW1, and we got a taste of World Domination, and we loved it. So, y'know, you started it.
We're Frankenstein's Monster, and you let us loose.
/S, just kidding, America sucks, we know it. A lot of us want to do better, and we're hoping for a different future. We're at a crossroads, things are going to be very different in the future. I just hope it's our difference that prevails, and not MAGAs.
Spain has something to say about that. Cuba, Philippines, ... And Hawaii has also something to say.
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