This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
All posts should follow this basic structure:
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YPTB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
Relevant comms
There's only one mod of !mop@quokk.au
I commented on their meme about Kamala Harris being just as likely to commit war crimes as Trump with an admittedly snarky, sarcastic reply that basically said "some of us wanted to whatever we could, as little as it might be, instead of watching the world burn. Must feel real morally superior safe behind that keyboard"
They banned me from the community for it.
Kinda funny for a community that bills itself as "free from the influence of .ml"
Oh yeah, they banned me for speaking out against the American GOP and how they're using social media to convince people that their opponents (the Democrats) are just as bad (in a post where someone was literally trying to do just that).
I didn't get a reason in my ban, though, but the mod log said it was for 74 years, so that's funny.
I'm not complaining though. I just recognised the comm and thought, "oh yeah that's the one that banned me."
Fun fact: in some mobile Lemmy clients, you can't block a comm that banned you, which means they get to serve you content you cannot block. (Not here to name and shame.) However, you can do it via the site itself, in settings → blocks. (Not sure about PieFed, I haven't blocked much on my PF account.) And then the Lemmy client will honour the block. Being banned from a community should mean you block it, but this does not happen by default (and, there may be cases where you still want to read/view the comm even though you can't interact with it).
This place is the new aita, hey.
Eh, the sidebar calls for those AITA response acronyms... no one in YPTB has the power to undo a ban from another comm, so I think it's just for added engagement/fun.
Regardless of your opinion, attack the idea not the person. You know nothing about the person who posted so you made some pretty big assumptions that they a) do nothing to help and b) are even from the USA. That said, your comment is pretty typical internet fare that I'd just roll my eyes at and downvote.
The mod did the same of course, replying with an ad hominem.
Little bit of YDI (a temp ban maybe) but also PTB for the 74 year ban which is an overreaction IMO (~~maybe BPR~~ I just saw someone else banned for 74 years from that comm for saying idiotic which is apparently ableist lol).
74 years is the default PieFed permanent ban length.
I think the default is actually the year 2100 rather than a length of 74 years.
YDI
The way you said it was out of line.
You could say the same thing without being nasty. You chose to go hard at some stranger online, and got banned for it. It's one of the very rare things that fully justifies a first offense permaban.
Why? Because anyone going that nasty for no good reason will absolutely, 100% keep doing it.
I've caught bans for being an asshole like that, and deserved every single one. In the past, I've handed out bans over at reddit for that exact behavior and have zero regrets.
Next time, try and remember that even if the meme is shit, attacking someone like that ain't cool.
defends a right wing cop in an anarchist space
YDI
Didn't defend Kamala. Defended the people who chose to vote for her instead of abstaining. Very big difference
Kamala Harris has never in her life been a police officer, that's disinformation spread by people who need to lie in order to be convincing.
she was literally a prosecutor who laughed in an interview about charging single mothers with possession while she was also smoking weed. what kind of shitlib anarchist pretender are you, that you're defending a class traitor like that?
Well what you've just said is the truth, and I like it much better than the lie above. I'll defend the vast majority of people from just straight up lies. It's one of My ethical principles. Those don't tend to waver much depending on who I apply them to.
Me reading this comment section.
People please stop locking yourselves down into emotional traps.
I would argue that yes the ban is heavy handed but you should have known where you were commenting as well. I truly understand your position as in France that's what we are forced to do every 5 fucking years. Just please try to be more diplomatic in your comments next time and I am sure that you would not have been banned.
Imagine what it's like for someone of colour to have to vote for a prosecutor as the alternative of the Devil. It's like voting for the middle manager of Hell.
Everyone here is right in their own way but please chill.
I'm transgender and I'd vote for Joanne Fucking Rowling if it were a FPTP election and the only other candidate were Trump. Hell, I'd vote for the monster who raped My ex-wife over Trump. I'd vote for the cult leader who indoctrinated Me and then threw Me away like yesterday's tampon over Trump. Trump is worse.
Sorry to get so personal and intense, but I want to stress that choosing between two bad options is not that hard. Sure, I'd be horrendously upset about any of those options. I am seriously upset at Kamala bragging about how much oil her government pumped. I still have the ability to make a choice. It's a matter of decency.
Neoliberal nonsense in a leftist comm? YDI.
That comment doesn't read as neoliberal at all. Only the comments defending the right of mods to do whatever they want read as neoliberal.
YDI. Cultists of either party should not be allowed
Kinda funny for a community that bills itself as “free from the influence of .ml”
it's also anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist. so it makes perfect sense that liberal nonsense in defense of a cop (ACAB) who supports Israeli crimes against humanity would not be welcome. it isn't a comm that's friendly towards the United States government or their politicians, so why go there to simp? kamala is a piece of shit, and you should be ashamed for defending her.
who defended her? I defended the people who chose to vote for her instead of abstaining. Big fucking difference
And this is literally the entire problem. Y'all can't tell the difference between people who support shitty policies, and people who do what little is within their power to reduce harm
The idea of a ballot being capable of reducing the harm in a system rooted in colonial domination and exploitation, white supremacy, hetero-patriarchy, and capitalism is an extraordinary exaggeration. There is no person whose lives aren’t impacted everyday by these systems of oppression, but instead of coded reformism and coercive “get out the vote” campaigns towards a “safer” form of settler colonialism, we’re asking “what is the real and tragic harm and danger associated with perpetuating colonial power and what can be done to end it?”
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/voting-is-not-harm-reduction
Harm reduction is harmful
Voting as harm reduction does more harm than good. Accepting reforms through voting makes people settle for a partial goal; it is a concession. From this position of compromise, the state entrenches its position, and it becomes more difficult to push further, for voters fear losing their partial gains. Accepting harm reduction also divides the movement, because some will be satisfied with the crumbs, while others want it all (see the split at the ZAD). Harm reduction also assumes that the harm (the government) cannot be removed entirely, which is an argument that there can be no anarchy.
Voting is not harm reduction
For the vast majority of issues, there’s no difference between the political parties. They are all the parties of business, climate destruction, deportation, incarceration, police, surveillance, drone strikes, sacred site desecration, et cetera. By getting you to believe that there is a lesser of two evils, the state dampens your desire for abolishing it, because you are meant to believe that things will be worse if you don’t vote and support a political party. Look at the fact that the George Floyd Rebellion occurred under Trump, where liberals, and progressives, and leftists didn’t get what they want, where the harm was supposedly greater, than under Biden, where those same people lie dormant, accepting the lesser evil world as a blessed reprieve.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-why-you-shouldn-t-vote#toc1
Still not rule breaking in that community though? if they'd posted this I'd have had a conversation about it sooooo....?
who defended her? I defended the people
that's fucking bullshit, and you know it.
it's really not. but I understand if you can't see the difference
I can't see the difference because there isn't one. you weren't defending any voters, because nobody was attacking any voters. the meme had nothing to do with voting.
the fuck are you talking about? the meme is literally a shot at the people who supported her candidacy and argue today that things wouldn't be how they are now under Trump.
whatever, this isn't what this sub is for. done with this particular thread
It's a bad take (in the context of to community you posted in) that is worded as a personal attack against the mod, it's not a good look for you. It still harsh to get perm banned for pretty much your second comment there though ngl
But yeah aside from that, the general vibe I'm getting from the community and the mod is that there's an attempt to build an echochamber of a specific ideology, and severe enough disagreement will likely land you a ban if the rules can justify it in the slightest way possible. It's a bit contradictory though, given how 99% of the mod posts there are just radical liberal coal that most people can agree with (just look at the upvotes), but when those people start commenting, they start banning them en masse since it's not the kind of people they want, and I don't think they have the self awareness to realize this contradiction.
Wonder if there's an acronym for "you probably deserved less, but the mod is also at fault for attracting and 'baiting' people like you over with their posts", idk.
Nothing says attractive pro-liberal meme like criticising both sides. I don’t know how you can see that community and think it’s anything but a space for leftists and not liberals even if the occasional meme makes fun of people liberals also don’t like.
That's precisely why I've never said that it's all of the posts, but the majority of them. Most posts there talk shit about right-wing of capital (i.e. the police and neoliberalism), are just anarchist larp material (throw molotov i am so cool type shit), or some vague anti-capitalist virtue signalling. These kinds of posts are something that most liberals (especially socdem servile belief in the state types) agree with and subscribe to the community for, and it can easily be observed when the occasional post that happens to disagree or attack them gets posted.
It's the natural outcome of plopping down 20 posts every single day from other websites, most of them are going to be heavily upvoted inoffensive crap that are made to be agreed with and not consistent polemics.