The timing is unfortunate... I'd like to buy a used EV, and I've seen a few I like on carvana with very low miles for cheap... but I've been living in an apartment and would have no place to change it... Now I'm buying a house with (among many other things) a 240v outlet in the garage specifically for changing an EV... But it's going to be a couple weeks, and those used EVs are dwindling...
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You can get by on public fast chargers for the interim. 120V is also more viable than I expected. I was all ready to install a 240 line for a charger when we bought our EV but a year later we haven’t actually needed to yet. No long commute in our household, so 🤷♂️BTW we did exactly what you described: bought a very low-miles used Bolt on Carvana.
Take the plunge if you want to.
Had a Nissan Leaf few years. Never needed a 240v. On the standard 120v charger it gained about 5 miles every hour it was plugged in. Most every day it was in my driveway for 12+ hours so even when it was super close to dead, after dinner and sleeping it’d be up to 60ish miles of charge. My commute was 22 miles round trip, so it was almost always fully charged in the AM, and I was able (but it was a pita to run the cable) to charge it at my office on 120v as well in case it was ever a real problem.
new ones in the US are overpriced. its probably everything but TESLAS.
I remember the last time gas prices went through the roof.
I was riding my bike with my wife, going to the goshery store. A guy yelled out of his truck. I was like here we go....(im used to harassment on bikes). He said "Yeah! Stick it to em!"
We were just poor at the time, but it made our day haha.
This was my experience this morning. I ride a trike with a big fucking basket in back so i haul a lot of shit around town. It's mostly pickup dudes who love my trike anyways i've discovered, but when i'm hauling shit (like 150 pounds of cat food) they really love it. I get "how much gas are you saving on that" "all of it, it gets me to the next town and back" a lot and it's a real fun conversation.
Nice, those are the fun ones.
I wish people were kinder at times.
I wish riding a bike (even an e-bike) was even close to an option for me. It is not. I am stuck in the loop of needing a car, which keeps me needing a car indefinitely.
What piece of shit harassed you for riding a bike?
Edit: I am deeply saddened by the current state of things.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do-gooder_derogation
Some people are very fragile and have poor emotional regulation. When they see other people doing good, it makes them feel bad, so they lash out.
Environmentalism, biking, veganism, all commonly evoke this behavior.
One of my roommates in college had me drive him to buy a bike off of Craigslist so he could get around, he rode it home, and then never touched it again because he got a bunch of drive-by harassment/name-calling, it was really sad.
Seriously? I get yelled at at least once every time I ride. People have thrown drinks at me, spit at me numerous times (though their aim is generally very poor)
I've even been run off the road a few times, intentionally (they admitted it after I caught up with them at the next light and confronted them)
In my local city, people die every year getting ran over on a bike. I knew a dr who didnt make it.
I got close-lined off my bike once around 2017. Its part of the gang initiation to send someone to the hospital. I have a dent in my nose because of it.
Its MUCH more dangerous in my area than most places though.
Maga land folks get very angry if you're even driving a small car. Been screamed at and almost ran off the road just for existing in a small car. It offends their tiny pp. Or something.
They REALLY hate bikes. Maybe because while they drive their 8000 lb dually quad cab thats never touched dirt or towed once, and hauls 1 person 99% of the time, they get mad at how efficient you are.
And I have a truck too. For work. 8 ft box single cab manual with no radio or ac. Hauls construction material and tows trailers. A truck used for real work. Fuck bro trucks.
An old friend was once getting a ride to work in an escalade when a big ole lifted truck did some dick move, so she made a big truck small dick joke. It didn't land well. When another friend dumped this man, we learned she called him turtle 🐢 due to how turtles can pull their head in.
Yup... drove a small car back from college and two truck bros decided it'd be fun to sandwich my car between them. One rode my rear bumper with high beams, the other slowed down and rode the middle line so I couldn't pass. Then he'd start slamming his brakes.
I got furious reading that. I would’ve slammed the brakes and said goodbye to my car at that point. USA hits different man.
You'd have said goodbye to your head as well, because that lifted truck isn't going into the rear of the small car... it's going up and over.
All I can say is fuck lobbying and fuck the god awful politicians allowing these small dick energy monstrosities to happen.
I'm just lucky the guy in front of me didn't have his truck configured to roll coal, giving me a smokescreen in addition to blinding high beam.
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what ? as a bike rider it happens to me quite often, the passenger hanging out the window yelling "get a car ya cheap cunt!" another time, fallen behind my gf for a bit, some dude hangs out the window and slaps her ass as they pass
Am Australian though.
the passenger hanging out the window yelling “get a car ya cheap cunt!”
At least get a bike, ya cheap passenger cunt!
Are you fucking kidding me? You’re describing apes
Humans are apes tho.
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The high gas prices may have added fuel to the fire, but the best news here is that used EVs are growing in popularity. That is a consequence of us finding out batteries don't degrade as fast as we first imagined, which makes used EVs a lot more interesting.
In the short term, that kills the market for new EVs, since used ones were so dirt cheap. In the long run, the resale value of new EVs will be much more stable, eliminating the last downside they had.
(Obviously, many car makers saw the short term pain and gave up on the entire market. That is of course because car maker CEOs are absolutely brilliant people with foresight and strategic thinking. Just kidding: they occupy the only category of jobs that should absolutely be replaced by AI.)
I hope more people try it because hot damn, I love having an EV. We got a gently used Bolt last year and it’s exceeded my expectations in every way. It’s quick and QUIET inside and so far we haven’t had the need to go beyond a regular old wall socket 120V charger (we mostly just drive in-town). But wow I love driving it and never stopping to gas it or even change the oil. It’s such a simple and satisfying experience.
I think there's also a problem with the kinds of EVs everyone tried to sell.
Tesla has seen legitimate success in making EVs a desirable luxury item. The Prius became something of a fashion statement among kale chip eating Californians in the 2000s because of its alleged economy, but it was still an economy car. It wasn't that nice or luxurious. Tesla made cars people wanted to drive and be seen driving, with an all-electric powertrain.
Pretty much everyone tried to copy that business model, making excessively fast luxury sport sedanover blobs with price tags that make car shoppers start muttering the word "depreciation."
Meanwhile, EVs tend to be the breeding ground for shit features everybody hates, like touch screen HVAC controls. Nobody wants to make a normal car that happens to be electric, which is what a lot of the buying public wants, but can't find.
Very, very fair points. I wondered sometimes why no enterprising manufacturer simply took an existing ICE car and made an EV conversion kit. Like a conversion kit for a 2010 Honda Civic, take out the ICE engine etc. and replace it all with electric. That's the car we want.
Don't forget the obsession with having any way to open a door except a boring normal way.
I'm really really hoping EVs get over the Tesla envy and just make sensible cars with EV drivetrains.
It's probably a wildly unpopular idea, but I personally would love a Miata with an H shaped battery pack to let the passengers ride low in the car at the expense of some range, with the traditional driveshaft tunnel becoming battery.
But failing that, straightforward door opening, actual buttons and knobs for HVAC and volume, and a reasonable expectation of serviceable battery pack over time and I'm totally there for it.
That miata concept sounds fun. But would it be more fun than one that has revs and gears, even though it would be way faster?
Honestly the ideal in my case might be like 2500lbs and 300hp but only like 100 miles of range to keep the battery size down. But I don't think that's gonna happen.
The closest to that I can think of is the Tesla Roadster. Which IIRC was basically an electric Lotus Elise, rather than a Mazda Miata. I wonder how popular electric Miatas would actually be, without a manual transmission.
The most "normal car that happens to be electric" I can think of is the Slate. With the exception of the powertrain and complete lack of a radio, the controls and mechanisms look like they're from 20 years ago. The more I look at it though the more I think that car is DOA.
Trump may be the best thing to happen to energy since we discovered fusion.
Can we yet call the discovery of fusion a “thing that happened to energy?” ;D
It’s getting there, I suppose!
unfortunately he's decimating green energy in pretty much every other area. especially wind.
No he isn't. He is putting a few brakes on in places but there are too many ecconomic tail winds and so green energy is being added despite his efforts. There are only a few places his position even has power, most green energy is a state permit only.
In the US
FTFY. The long term outcome for this is that the world stops revolving around the US. For better or for worse
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