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    [–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    Not going to lie. Many years ago on one of my first Linux installs that I actually built up to be more than just a dev playground, I deleted my bootloader... it just let me do that, no scary confirm. That is the day I learned Linux is guardrails-off, lol.

    [–] EatingOnions@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    My personal hurdle as teenager always was having to keep windows on same disk for my sisters to use while struggling to install Linux besides it so I could have that semi transparent terminal like in the movies. Can't even count how many times I've bricked bootloader because of that, but when it worked I felt like I'm a president

    [–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    Windows is the best program to use if you want to accidentally lose your boot ability. I haven't bothered to try dual boot for 10 years because I got tired of the bullshit.

    [–] EatingOnions@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

    Really especially at the my teenage times, there was no Google to help you, no mentors to guide you. You got some shitty homemade linux distro nobody ever heard of on CD from a friend and only way was through trial and error. Funny times

    [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

    A mistake in Linux can cause it to uninstall its bootloader.

    A mistake in Windows can also cause it to uninstalling Linux's bootloader.

    [–] Jako302@feddit.org 5 points 5 hours ago

    Speaking from experience, windows will gladly uninstall the linux bootloader without mistakes or errors involved. Pretty sure that's just what a successful update is for microslop.

    [–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

    Windows IS a mistake.

    Technically speaking you don't need a bootloader to boot Linux, with uefi of course you can use efistub and just boot from there but you could also have a separate Linux distro on a USB stick than chroot into your main one. Hell even if you uninstall the kernel there are still ways to repair the system.

    [–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 28 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    Linux is the parent that let's their child put a fork into the electrical socket and then says "Have you learned anything?"

    [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
    [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

    If you say so!

    Linux is the parent tells their child "Lets put a fork into the electrical socket" and then says "Have you learned anything?"

    [–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

    Get your damn hands off my Lets!

    [–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

    Msg unclear system dead

    [–] myotheraccount@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

    Just make sure to reinstall a bootloader before the next reboot. Or bring one one a USB stick when you need it. Or just copy me and boot me in a VM. What do I care? I'm just a kernel.

    [–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

    "Am afraid you can't do that"

    Sigh "sudo uninstall the bootloader"

    [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago

    When I grow up there will be a day when everybody has to do what IIIIII say...

    [–] kamen@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

    ... and the irony that Windows can also fuck up your bootloader in a dual boot scenario.

    [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago

    Windows doesn't let you really screw your system because it's its work and it's very jealous of it.

    [–] Blurntout@lemmy.ca 69 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

    Linux does let you fuck around and find out lol

    [–] henfredemars 21 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

    But then you find out, and you learn, and we become better users for it.

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    [–] FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    Linux does not "let you fuck around" in fact its says "you are root and if you root I assume u know what you do!"

    And yeah i learned that the hard way when it didnt threw any errors at me doing stuff as root...

    10/10 would do it again!

    [–] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    I've forgotten i was root, thought I was back to normal user, fat fingered a command, and removed tons of directories. I actually learn more fixing my fuck ups than when I reading books. Nothing like pressure to really focus you!

    [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 3 points 7 hours ago

    The best teacher is a fuck up

    [–] night_petal@piefed.social 3 points 7 hours ago

    That happened to me with /etc/ . That was not a fun experience.

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    [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 hours ago

    Edge is cancer, it randomly opens and takes minutes to load before recognizing closing it.

    In the old days task manager would close it, but task manager is now worthless. God I fucking hate Microsoft

    [–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 41 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

    I've debloated my OS down to a typewriter.

    [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 2 points 7 hours ago

    Olivetti it isπŸ€ͺ

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    [–] lemming741@lemmy.world 62 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    initrd? Sounds like bloat, I'm deleting it.

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    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    You know, as much as I don't love AI, a small model sitting in the terminal of noob installations might be a useful thing.

    update graphics driver

    :hey, that's not a command, but if you're looking to do that, you should .... (step by step process)

    [–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 6 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

    That's actually a good idea, just a tiny local model just to help you learn how to work in a terminal. I would have loved that when I first made the jump, the RTFM crowd almost made me give up.

    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 hours ago

    I've been avoiding RTFM for 30 years. command --help at best. Whoever writes the manual pages and I just don't see eye to eye on documentation.

    command - description

    20 examples of common usage

    exhaustive list of options with a short paragraph each and acceptable usage.

    that's what I want.

    It seems either they want to write you a 50 page novel mentioning random options or just give you 250 options with loose references of what's not allowed with what.

    I've been throwing a lot of my shell scripts into llm and asking for best practice updates, it's shocking how much cool shit it out there that i've never even considered.

    today's gem:

    script -q ~/command.log

    do a bunch of crap

    exit

    script get's written

    put that together with SSH.

    Now you log ssh sessions on all servers to one file. You can go back and farm that for history.

    script that out so that on exit it expunges export, sql and vault type passwords/keys.

    [–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

    the RTFM crowd almost made me give up.

    Ya, there just gatekeeping skum that want to feel better than everyone else.

    [–] InputZero@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

    Learning to not ask questions, feeling like a pleb when everyone else is a guru, and having RTFM yelled at you is part of the Linux experience. What else do you expect me to do when someone asks me a question? Provide that new user with a level headed answer that concisely addresses their problem in-order to encourage them to join the Linux community and help it to grow? Are you even listening to yourself right now, you sound crazy.

    [–] Peffse@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    I've... seen this? Well, not an AI model, but I know I've seen something where it takes common words and gives you the best guess on commands, and even common typos.

    [–] Cactopuses@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    There is a program called thefuck that does this - can fix things like gti instead of git etc..

    [–] EatingOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] Cactopuses@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

    Pour one out for the real heros

    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

    yeah, Ubuntu has a command-not-found handler. it sets up .bashrc with /usr/lib/command-not-found when you miss a cli match.

    [–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago

    EatingOnions is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.

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