I SAID WHAT I SAID Look if you can't trust someone using #antivax in their post then at least be a decent person and extend some grace with the understanding that we're all basically just normal people doing the very best we can in this world -- at our core we are all good people and a diversity of thoughts is our strength. But also my opinion is more valid than your opinion and no amount of facts can make my opinion wrong because it's an opinion and that would be wrong. Gotcha suckers.
this post was submitted on 05 Apr 2026
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Where's the /s
Are you blind?
It hasn't disappeared. It's still exists, it's just that if you get it modern antibiotics can kill it.
You still have a 5-15% chance of dying with modern antibiotics.
It's the improvement in sanitary practices that ultimately made it a much lesser issue.
And the fact that everyone else left alive had some form of immunity or resistance.
And the virus evolved to be less deadly and people evolved to have better immune responses to it.
The "Spanish Flu" still exists, and is all around us. Endemic to humanity. Meaning the H1N1-subtype of the influenza virus. Which killed 50-100 million people in 1918-1920. (Nowadays it's called the seasonal flu)
I'd like to find an image of anti-antivaxxers, from around that time. They had some good burns against the silly antivaxxers and I just can't remember what they were.
No its not. The seasonal flu is not the Spanish flu, the seasonal flu is not one virus it is many.
Those are two different things. The bubonic plague is a bacterial infection.
Oh yeah, I should've said "the disease" but I was already talking about flu epidemics in my head.
Good note, thanks, but for other people, as I understand the difference very well and would never suggest antibiotics as a treatment to virus-borne disease. And the evolution of bacteria is very different from viruses. Hell, we haven't even decided if viruses are technically living or not. Anyway, good point
Also, the Black Plague has not been eradicated. It still exists in small mammals such as gophers and rats, and a strain could potentially mutate to humans again, although changes in human hygiene have made blood to blood infections less common.
The reason it seemed to disappear is because the more infectious and fatal strains spread to and killed off every susceptible human at a rate that could not support its propagation to new healthy humans.
It actually still exists in people too, it's just rare and treatable with antibiotics.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/seriously-dont-worry-about-the-plague
Plague: Then vs now
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Its bacteria not a virus. Our hygiene is the biggest reason it is "gone". No longer throwing shit in the streets.
I see you haven't been to some towns that literally still throw shit in the streets.
Its bacteria not a virus
And?
I assume you mean well, but this is serious "confidently incorrect" energy. Yersinia pestis, the bacteria that causes bubonic plague, never changed to become less virulent and can still affect humans to this day. It has been killing a ton of humans for thousands of years and was still killing thousands of people at a time in localized outbreaks up until we discovered the antibiotics that cure it.
Also, it's transmitted through the fleas on small mammals, not through the mammals themselves. Flea transmission is far and away the primary vector. Human to human transmission has always been pretty rare, since it can only be transmitted between humans through contact with bodily fluids, similar to how HIV spreads.
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Also it hasn't disappeared. You can friggin catch it right now if you want
Gotta catch m all
"One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic."
These people would care more if they personally get hurt.
That why a rhetorical tool that personalizes death may work.
Something like "okay, your mother is now dead. And now your wife, and auntie and even your old highschool girlfriend. You watch them all die, bewildered and distraught, but you do nothing until your son dies in front of you, choking on a resporator, pleading in his eyes until the very end."
"You can stop the rest of your family dying right now right now, right way. you can even save your own life, in a way that will also save other peoples mothers, wifes, and sons. Will you?"
Also it didn't disappear?
These people are just willfully ignorant and deeply faithful.
So sick of seeing confidently incorrect people opining, using historical examples, when they have never before cracked open a history book and have no idea of the context.
So sick of seeing confidently incorrect people opining, using historical examples, when they have never before cracked open a history book and have no idea of the context.
This has always been the case through history.
The issue is Twitter boosts them over less engaging experts. The new problem is the medium. Twitter is not a fair forum, and these takes trend deliberately.
...And I think its really important for scientists (or anyone who believes in science) to recognize that. With all due respect, I do not understand, with everything that's happened, why they still keep using Twitter.
Legitimately, what else would they use? Hardly anyone uses Mastodon - I don't for sure, but from what I hear, the devs continually ignore the needs that people keep asking about. Which is why so many turned to Bluesky - it works.
To discuss the Threadiverse that I am much more familiar with, literally 100% of the people that I've told about "Lemmy" have outright chided me for having told them about it. (1) If you Google'd that term (not DuckDuckGo, I'm talking mainstream normies here) a year ago, it would take you to lemmy.ml; (2) that instance by default does not show All, but rather Local; (3) lemmy.ml - along with lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net - routinely calls for the murder of everyone participating in a capitalist, Western society (Edit: not just billionaires, or even millionaires, but anyone who participates). And showing Local rather than All does not dilute that flood as much as you see your view of the Threadiverse content from lemmy.world. (4) no major Lemmy instances defederate from lemmy.ml (quokk.au did iirc, before it switched all the way over to PieFed).
There are some MAJOR structural issues with the Fediverse that need to be solved first, before mainstream normies - who remember are primarily centrist (aka liberal to even right-wing by the standards here) - will feel comfortable here. Not celebrating and calling for their literal irl murder might be a start. (Note that while YOU might have such communities and user accounts blocked, a guest account, especially browsing lemmy.ml, cannot and would not know how to deal with such - e.g. a new account on most instances could respond to comments in Chapotraphouse@hexbear.net while browsing All and have no idea what they are walking into... then noping out and worst of all, telling everyone that will listen how extremist we are here)
We are a Nazi bar here, except instead of Nazis it's tankies. Also, purity beatings will continue until morale improves. Mainstream people do not feel welcomed here. And most people seem unable to even say so much as they should be? Would you want more "right-wing" people here? (I actually mean centrists, but especially in the USA where so many are located, that is more where they would lean, right?)
Edit: so to answer your question, they use Xhitter the same way that we use the Threadiverse - by blocking early and blocking often, and putting up with what the remainder of stuff that they do not like, in order to make some use of what is freely offered to them, especially requiring minimal efforts to overcome their existing inertia.
People also are moving to blue sky (bsky.app) which is the twitter-like thing made by the guy who made Twitter
Sadly, yeah. Eventually it will enshittify as well, but in the meantime people seem to enjoy it.
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It also killed between 10% and 100% (average of a 3rd or so) of populated areas every 10 years for about 600 years. So ~3x longer than the US has been around.
But I assume that nobody at the time had autism, because they were not vaccinated. Worth it!^/s^
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The Black Plague was truly a horror, but it DID break the back of Catholicism in Europe, so that's nice. Every cloud has a silver lining
It broke feudalism, too, and kickstarted the renaissance.
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The black plague is common in Madagascar for example, in villages which can't be ~~reqxhes~~ accessed without a helicopter and people there have no money for antibiotics. So doctors without borders are doing there best, but it's still there (among other places). The vaccine for spreading misinformation is education, but sadly people prefer to get their knowledge from tiktok while letting AI do their school work, if they go to school at all.
Edit: typo
Your typing of "accessed" went badly enough that I wonder if you also type in another language
Lately my autocorrect is fucking up big time after years of good service.
English isn't my main language, but that garbled piece of shit word which should have said "accessed" also doesn't resemble any word in my language.
It did not cause imaginary autism though.
Ah you see it killed only non autistic people leaving a higher percentage if autistic people to breed.
This is completely fake comment.
I worked at a zoo for a bit and whenever we went in the prairie dogs enclosure we had to wear lowkey hazmat and fully sanitize before & after bc they can carry it
Funny thing is the bubonic plague still kills people in the US every year still today, just in small numbers.
At first I attributed this to dumbfuckery but lately I'm again seeing more of these opinions but now from people who see it as an opportunity
JD Vance cheering on the Bubonic Plague.
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