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[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Oh neat, I'm one of the green people in the first two rows. Not 100% sure how fast they were going, somewhere in that range. Just glad it was a short sedan and not a big truck/SUV. I live in the US, could've easily been a truck and ran over me instead of me toppling onto the hood.

[–] toad@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

crap. I hope you're ok now buddy

[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Thanks :) I got incredibly lucky and walked away with only 3 bruises and a couple scrapes.

[–] toad@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

At least motorcycles are fair. If the pedestrian dies, you die as well

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

They are more reckless and arrogant though

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

There’s a new neighbor at the end of our street with small children. She always puts one of those green children at play signs in her front yard, yet insists on driving 25-30mph down our suburban street. The rest of the neighbors hate her.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.org 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But just wait for the deafening screaming of people when 30km/h limits are enacted in front of schools because that would dramatically reduce lethality of accidents, while costing car drivers maybe a few seconds of drive time, if at all. It is quite a spectacle.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

30 km/h zones are great, I can relax a bit with my small city car knowing there's pretty much no way I'll kill someone

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 21 hours ago

I live near an intersection. Drivers will ten second horn blast because someone won't crawl up the arse of the car in front of them just so horatio can mount the kerb and get into a sliplane they can't exit until the lights change anyway

So what i'm saying is you're underselling the stupidity

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Now since you mentioned it - I'm grateful that it is not miles per hour ✨

[–] bonsai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Man I'd hate to be one of the 40 subjects of this experiment

Spoiler/s if that wasnt obvious

[–] toad@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 hours ago

I dont get it. If it's sarcastic you mean you'd love to be one of the subjects?

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  1. don't forget the driver. He's in no danger but comes out with serious ptsd
[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Depends on the driver. Also, I think Teslas "FSD" cars are a perfect candidate. Or, hell, Musk would probably do it himself, just for the fun of it.

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago

The worst part is even if you survive they paint you all green

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 153 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

This needs to be updated.

Getting hit by a pickup truck at 30 MPH is similar to getting hit by a Honda Civic at 120 MPH for kinetic energy.

That's besides the fact that pickups have a much taller hood vs sedans so there are significantly higher rates of head/internal injury.

Taller cars and trucks are more dangerous for pedestrians, according to crash data

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/sites/complete-streets-chicago/home/traffic-safety/vehicle-size-and-speed.html

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I got hit by a large SUV doing between 30mph and 40mph a few years ago. I can’t tell you why or how, but I had a split second to twist and plant my hands on the hood and jump so I went up instead of under. Went into the windshield (broke it) and then got launched when she slammed on the brakes. It put my radius and ulna into my hands, my back into my guts, and knocked my brain so hard I gave the emergency crew a phone number that belonged to a girlfriend I’d broken up with almost 20yrs prior. Took me a year to be able to write again, not just physically. I’d start putting words to paper and end up with gibberish because between my brain and my hand it didn’t connect. Had to leave post-it notes around the house as a check list- did you eat, bathe, brush your teeth, feed the dogs, piss? My ability to sleep was wrecked, no circadian rythym. I don’t entirely believe in fate, but how the fuck that didn’t kill or cripple me boggles my mind (what’s left of it) daily.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

That's horrible. I can't imagine going through that.

Glad you're alive. Thank you for sharing.

[–] toad@lemmy.wtf 0 points 3 hours ago

You'd have to be very unlucky to get hit ffrom both side at the same time though

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We wouldn't have so much trouble with this if all men had the same size dick.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We wouldn't have so much trouble with this if all men had the same ~~size dick~~ upbringing that leads to the sort of maturity that leads people to be not shit.

Let's not bring body shaming into this mmkay?

Its not body shaming, its overcompensation shaming.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 21 hours ago

They'd just lie about it anyway

Your math is wrong. Kinetic energy scales linearly with mass, quadratically with speed. The graphic you included supports the idea that at same speed, the pickup truck has double the KE. The 120 mph sedan has dramatically more KE than a 30 mph pickup.

Assuming that your sedan has exactly half the mass of the pickup, it would match a 30 mph pickup's KE at 30*sqrt(2) mph, which is somewhere between 40 and 45 mph.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

There's quite a large discrepancy between this image and OPs image. This image says the survival rate of 30 mph (48 kph) is 60%, while OP's image says 50 kph it's at 20%. I wish they included a source for the data that could explain it.

This is the same issue I take with braking distance scales. They often vary wildly, and some don't even follow a quadratic increase in distance like you'd expect.

[–] 8baanknexer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

The energy difference is only really relevant if the thing you're hitting is significantly heavier or at least similarly heavy like a house or another car. For a person it's still much worse, but that is moreso because of the high hood of the car.

I know pickup trucks are heavy, but I'm surprised they are 16 times heavier than a Honda civic. The more you learn.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well... the person in the last photo looks like they're not happy about getting hit by a moving vehicle at all.

[–] gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

If we're going for efficiency, I think getting hit by both cars is the right move.

[–] trillian@feddit.org 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I am not sure why the difference in energy related to vehicle mass is relevant here as humans have an insignificant amount of mass compared to either vehicle, so transferred energy should be roughly the same. However, the difference in how the collision plays out (pulled under Vs thrown above) should be a huge impact

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[–] zerofk@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

After watching Gen V, “fuck cars” got a different connotation.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago

okay but don't fuck it at any faster than 30 kph

[–] Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mass times velocity equals FUBAR...

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Mass times velocity squared, that's why the huge difference in outcome for small changes in speed

[–] Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

A sense of humor is terrible thing to waste...

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 hours ago

If you think you were making a joke up there, you might not actually have a sense of humour.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn. I didn't realize it was so drastic. 100% fatality rate seems crazy, even rounded

[–] Spendius@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Good thing we went from 60 to 50 km/h speed limit in the cities. We should go even lower!

[–] toad@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 hours ago

what about 0?

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 points 7 hours ago

Some Italian cities (like Bologna) already have adopted 30km/h speed limit in 70% of the streets

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