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[–] bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

promptly notifying the Agentic Commerce Agent and Target of any activity

Which will involve trying to persuade another ai agent that it isn't use error and that you really need to speak to someone.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 hours ago

Thus reads like a need for regulation.

Thanks Trump for preventing such regulation.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Who the fuck is so stupid and lets an AI do the shopping?

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 5 hours ago

I have met many people who are at least that stupid. Gullible people with limited ability to imagine future consequences.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 22 points 8 hours ago

I guess that also means if I successfully gaslight the AI into giving me a 120% discount, Target has to pay for it.

[–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Who cares if they use an unreliable AI or not? Target suck either way. Don't go there at all.

[–] Kaerkob@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The same is happening at the other big boxes.

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Don't go there, shop local.

(Ignoring the fact Walmart is the only game in town. Also don't drive.)

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 10 hours ago

Target and Walmart also say that if you don't scan something when you go through self checkout, you can be charged with shoplifting.

In other words, the companies have none of the responsibility and people have all of the liability.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I gotta say I will be shocked if some of these places aren't burned to the ground because they fucked up the wrong crazies order.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

There are a lot of unhinged people out there. I used to mod r/askpsychology

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[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip 113 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

am i old? i simply can't imagine handing control of my money over to AI because i can't be assed to order shit online all by myself--which takes less time than writing a prompt

[–] Whimsical418@aussie.zone 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The cynic in me says they'll start making the normal online ordering process much harder and worse to try to force ai shopping usage

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Retailers will literally eliminate search, product sort and filters, etc.

They will dumb it down to happy value meal, the generous ones may allow ala carte ordering, a nod to legacy web purchasing. Imagine allowing consumers to choose their own products?!? How dated and unprofitable.

With most people nearly illiterate, as designed, they won't complain.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 26 points 11 hours ago

Can't imagine handing control of anything over to an LLM.

[–] _chris@lemmy.world 88 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

If you’re dumb enough to trust the AI agent at all, but especially one that is provided, owned, and operated by the capitalist company that you’re shopping at and you expect it to act in your best interest, that’s a special kind of stupid.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Be that as it may, I wish there were a law on the books holding the AI agent and its operators accountable. Sounds like a massive fucking retail scam to me, and we don't blame the victim when it's a human con artist stealing their money, so it makes no sense to me to blame the victim when it happens digitally.

[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

In Canada, a court ruled that Air Canada was liable for its AI chatbot. Air Canada's lawyer(s) attempted to argue that the chat bot was a separate entity responsible for itself, an astonished judge said, "lol no" (not an exact quote). https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/air-canada-chatbot-lawsuit-1.7116416

But that's Canada, and Target is not here (anymore), so...
Not relevant to the company at hand, but there is some precedence somewhere.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Canadian law is also why there's no Fox News in Canada.

Good, Faux News is just a pile of maga dogshit

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, if you, or any other relatively young or middle aged Lemmy user got got by trusting Target's AI shopper, I'd laugh.

But that's not a representative sample. This will be used to exploit the poor, uneducated, and elderly.

I think our best bet is that someone creates a script that burns through Target's tokens and that drives the costs up to unsustainable levels.

Maybe that's a pipe dream, I just know that our lawmakers will do nothing to help, so that's what we're left with.

[–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 12 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

I would like if there was an activist movement with the goal of burning tokens but not targeting OpenAi or Anthropic as they can afford to have a small percentage of their tokens being wasted. We need to target smaller corporations that actually pay for tokens. Chipolte's online order assistant is not ready for high volume tokens usage.

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[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 35 points 12 hours ago

Oh look, even more reasons to avoid target AND AI.

[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago

Fuck you target....do you really need to give potential customers more reasons to avoid your shit store?

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 34 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Why would I need AI to shop at Target for me in the first place?

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 9 points 11 hours ago

AI demands real world applications. Even things it is awful at.

This bubble can't burst soon enough.

[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Why would I need ~~AI~~ to shop at Target ~~for me~~ in the first place?

FTFY

Fuck Target.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Because my only other options are Walmart and Amazon…

[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

My condolences.

[–] violentfart@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm, is this why I’m seeing shit liked old used phones for $30k on eBay?

[–] addie@feddit.uk 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

There's always been the occasional listing with a price several orders of magnitude disconnected from reality. Have never understood it, seems too blatant to be fraud. Now, whether there's more of them now, I don't know.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

I always thought it was people that couldn't fulfill the ad but didn't want to take it down either, so they set the absurd price to effectively "pause" the ad. Pure speculation on my part tho.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Money laundering. Sometimes people just need a legal place to disappear a lot of money, and those way-too-high listings by third party sellers are part of the system that they either create for themselves or pay someone else to do for them. As long as they (or their launderer) control the listing, they get the money back at the end, and meanwhile if anyone else is stupid enough to buy their way overpriced item, they just buy them one, ship it, and pocket the difference.

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Also Fuck Target for closing on some lousy religion "day". Not that I don't support people getting a day off, I just don't think the reason for it is justified. Fuck off with religion.

[–] starblursd@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago

To be fair a lot of people celebrate for non religious reasons too and just have a fun day with their families

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[–] kinfuyuki@lemmy.zip 33 points 14 hours ago

i hope they start to sell $1000 pictures of products.. like.. it says in the top of the description its a picture, people read that but AI might skip that entirely, it will demotivate scalpers. i remember this being a serious problem for scapers in ebay, maybe we should start doing these practices in more places.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 27 points 14 hours ago

Fuck Target, too. Such a garbage company.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I'm older than old. I go to the store, I pick up the thing, inspect it, and pay for the thing. Just like I always have. Why change what already works? Oh, right, so the rich can get richer, that's why they force changes on us, under the guise of convenience. Lift a damn finger, is what I'm saying.

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, the handful of times I've ordered produce or fruit for delivery, it was obvious that they unloaded the damaged/bruised/over-ripe stuff on the online orders.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

That’s because the person doing the shopping for you is a minimum wage worker who doesn’t give two fucks and is being told to complete orders as fast as possible.

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[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

Entertainment purposes only.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago
[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This would be fine if consumers could get the point that AI is not reliable enough to operate without review, and Target makes it clear to them what the situation is. I doubt that will happen though.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 21 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

AI is not reliable enough to operate without review

Which makes it worthless for anything other than vague inspiration or as a verbose search result. Literally everything else takes more work to do something if the person is capable of doing the thing.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

It's useful for some things, but nothing serious. The danger is people who are clueless and think it's infallible and reliable. As far as a making a suggested shopping list, it could actually save time. It's good for .... suggestions.

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