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[–] pwalker@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

It does sound less problematic if you cite some "good" sources like this one: https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/neuerung-seit-1-januar-bundeswehr-maenner-bis-45-muessen-auslandsaufenthalt-melden/100214453.html

So basically it is not sanctioned (yet) if you don't do it and it is automatically granted as long as we are not in an active "war situation" (whatever that exactly means) or rather as long as our military service is still voluntary.

[–] mech@feddit.org 2 points 35 minutes ago

The active war situation has to be declared by the German government.
Declaring it changes a few aspects of how our government works, and how much it can limit individual rights.
The precursor to it is a declaration of a "state of tension".
Neither has ever happened in the history of the Federal Republic of Germany.

[–] leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

This wording comes from Russian propaganda network, to plant panic and disagreement as instructed.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 24 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The headline would have been correct on 22th December 2025, when it was introduced.

Now it has already been introduced and the 3 month period is over. Since it's April, all expats have failed to apply for a permission. That includes all men, there is no 45 year limit for the permission requirement.

I am curious how many Germans will be worried that this topic wasn't discussed when the law was changed and how many wonder that nobody reminded them at the start of the year. The handling is suspiciously sneaky.

[–] steel_for_humans@piefed.social 16 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

I thought Germany was a progressive country. Why only men?

[–] nope@piefed.social 1 points 36 minutes ago

Sweden reactivated our conscription duty in 2017 and then, since the law should be gender neutral, women were then also required to muster and serve if they where deemed needed by the armed forces.

For those looking in horror at Sweden for forcing young men and women into the military: In reality if you really don't want to serve, then you will probably preform a lot worse than a person highly motivated to serve their country. Thus you will not be called upon by the armed forces to do conscription.

However with the troubling times we are in the Swedish armed forces require a lot more people to uphold the deterrence and that results in the bar for who gets called upon gets lowered.

[–] mech@feddit.org 8 points 5 hours ago

The progressive parties in Germany don't want conscription for all genders.
They want conscription for no one.
Also, Germany's government is lead by this guy right now.

[–] pulsey@feddit.org 9 points 7 hours ago

It's also a problem with our Grundgesetz/ constitution. It has the old law in it, which only requires men to serve. To change this, it would require a two-third majority in the parlament, i.e. the government would need to help of the opposition. Also the current ruling government party is conservative and isnt really interested in changing it anyways.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 25 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Are we? In any case, it's a law from the 60s. They "only" modified a paragraph to make it apply in peace time.

But yeah, if we must have conscription laws again, they should definitely apply to all genders.

[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago

I believe the specific law is from 1977, but I agree with your point in general, that service shouldn't discriminate based on gender.

From my knowledge this rule was supposedly active for decades before Germany discontinued conscription and nobody really followed it then. Why there is a need to reactivate a law that will not be followed by the vast majority and that has no enforcement mechanisms associated with it really beats me. It's probably a mix of incompetence and "we've always been doing things like this".

[–] Jay101@lemmy.world -2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It is very conservative and ruled by a racist govt. Even the green party in Germany is more like Green-washing party.

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Idk why you're getting downvoted, you speak the truth

[–] Jay101@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Alot of politics in Germany revolves around cult like following instead of critical thinking, hence calling greens as green washing would get one down voted. The fact is Green politicians pushed to shut down nuclear energy. They also cheered for genocide, in fact they are complicit in the genocide. And instead of throwing away Annalena Baerbock, she got promoted to UNGA for supporting a genocide. Same reason why half of the holocaust victims are ignored and the remembrance is only limited specific identities. Roma and Sinti für example had to struggle until recently to get their genocide recognised and the first holocaust in Namibia was not recognised until few years ago. Meanwhile 80 billion Euros were sent to the apartheid state in Middle East to oppress people.

[–] cron@feddit.org 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Section 3 of the Compulsory Military Service Act (Wehrpflichtgesetz) provides that permits are to be granted as a matter of principle—rejection is therefore not intended. Nevertheless, filing an application remains mandatory.

Source: Berliner Zeitung