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[–] zemo@lemmy.world 6 points 40 minutes ago

Any miltary strategist will say that you can't bomb your way to a victory.

[–] Foni@piefed.zip 3 points 31 minutes ago

The situation has no way out. Leaving without opening the strait ruins the Gulf States that own a large part of the American economy that would go to hell. Opening the strait without troops on the ground is impossible, troops on the ground will be a pickle in lives and material as not seen since the Second World War. I think before this is over he will be seriously considering the nuclear option, I hope they can stop him before that

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago

Persia was strongest in that era.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 28 points 3 hours ago

I'm confused. I thought they had 48 hours to reopen the straight, but not really because talks were going well, but still 10 days until the US destroys all the infrastructure, but talks have been productive, and the war is going to be over any day now, but it doesn't matter because we don't need the oil, but we could take over the oil fields, but Europe should help us, but we don't need them and they should do it themselves.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No country has ever surrendered unconditionally from conventional airstrikes.

So we're either going to see boots on the ground (well, they're in the area), or more tiny hand flailing within that time frame.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Especially a country run by a threatened regime. If the IRGC give in, they’re dead. They also have established that they don’t care about the human cost.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Oddly enough, does this not also apply to the USA?

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 43 minutes ago

Absolutely correct. But I think the republicans are actually in worse state than the IRGC; they are the aggressors and clearly perceived that way by a lot of their base, and there’s still the idea of free elections.

[–] Naich@piefed.world 77 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

He is a disgrace to the noble tradition of the FIFA peace prize.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 hours ago

Lucky for him, the Amazon Oscar is still within reach

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Speech/stategy is "Iran will win war in 2-3 weeks and we are incapable of changing Iran's victory, but their civilians being gaza/stone aged will give us a sense of superiority"

Beyond pure demonic evil cruelty, destruction costs $2b/day in operations budget, delays global access to energy/shortages dry spots will occur, Iran will retaliate against future export capacity in the region. US troops are staged in GCC sharing videos of missile strikes on them.

GCC is extremely disappointing in this war. Zionazi media does keep claiming it is them instead of Israel that wants war/escalation/stone age, but they host US "ground" troops and air/missile attack sites. They blame Iran for self-defense retaliations more than US/Israel evil. Given plain strategy laid out, Iran, to survive better, needs to hit all Gulf desalination pre-emptively, and with drones sink/damage tankers that serve GCC ports every day. Tankers are massive sitting duck capital assets whose loss also means revenue/profit loss from high prices, and propaganda cannot hide the damage.

Desalination plants means GCC needs the gulf opened in under 10 days (Trump plan subject to insufficient gazafication determination after 3 weeks). GCC military/people can coup their monarchies sticking with US stone age plan. GCC is on wrong side of history here, and should all know that they are on the next domino line of Israel conquests/destruction from a weak Iran.

China could do more, if only by assuring world that they can guarantee opening the straights (with Iran cooperation) as soon as US leaves. That they can help the GCC rebuild if they have a government not hostile to Iran, and that supporting Gazafication of Iran does not help anyone in the world, especially GCC.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 55 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Your tax dollars at work. You could’ve had free education, Medicare for all, functioning roads and infrastructure, end homelessness, but instead we’re bombing fucking brown people in the Middle East. Let’s waste all this money and blow up the fucking desert mountains in Iran while simultaneously fucking over the rest of the world and raising gas prices to 10 bucks a gallon.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Sounds very familiar... Ah, yes. Russia does the same shit. So now it is the USA who repeats after the Russia, not the opposite.

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 hours ago

That would be….gasp….socialism

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 hours ago

What gets me is there is still people supporting this. I find it hard to imagine how we'll ever progress given we can't even agree on the problems to be solved.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 91 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Man, it sure didn't take long to pivot from "We need to invade Iran to protect those poor protestors from their evil government" to "Bomb 'em back to the stone age".

How strange. It's almost like Trump didn't have the best intentions of the Iranian people at heart from the get go.

[–] homes@piefed.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

From the get-go? You mean the get-go where we blew up an elementary school full of little girls?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Yes that's the joke they're making

[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago

In his 1965 autobiography (co-written with MacKinlay Kantor), LeMay is quoted as saying his response to North Vietnam would be to demand that "they've got to draw in their horns and stop their aggression, or we're going to bomb them back into the Stone Age.

Is that really a quote that you want to lean on, Donny? Not exactly a great omen.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Epstein files seem so long ago now

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 hours ago

I'm sure there are plenty of other CIA/Mossad pedo-honeypots operating.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 4 points 7 hours ago

Don't worry, they're working on a sequel 🤮

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 23 points 8 hours ago

This is EXACTLY what Jesus would Say!

-Trump's Faith Advisor!

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 62 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Wait didn’t we do that a year ago when we had a single attack that somehow destroyed all of their nuclear capabilities?

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago

I believe that was a strike at their centrifuges. They are needed to enrich uranium to powerplant grade or weapons grade.

Iran had agreed to stop using them, as part of the treaty trump tore up. Afterwards, the lack of any detectable fallout indicated that they were not in use, since no uranium was present.

Basically they lost their ability to produce more weapons grade material. It is unknown how much (if any) was previously made, and might be stockpiled elsewhere.

It also shows that Iran seems to have remained in compliance, despite trump pulling out of the deal.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 hours ago

"completely and totally decimated" -Trump

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 9 points 5 hours ago

You weren't supposed to remember that!

[–] tal@lemmy.today 19 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

My guess is that Trump doesn't have Congressional support for an AUMF, which means that all Iran has to do is last for 60 days before Trump has to pull out.

So basically, if Trump wants some kind of deal that uses the military as leverage, he has to get it closed in a matter of weeks.

[–] GrabtharsHammer@lemmy.world 34 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

But what if he just ignores the 60 day limit, and then we all wait till two years later for a court to finally decide that wasn't legal and he should stop?

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago

Right. He's technically not supposed to be able to start a war either. But here we are

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Fart of the Deal.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Now now, he shouldn't get ahead of himself! He should deploy the thousands of troops he said he would, then bomb Iran. Except in his pure stupidity, he'll bomb the soldiers he's deployed to Iran, yet claim it was some 67D chess move.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Praying for his speedy return to hell

[–] mech@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago

Yeah cause that worked so well to achieve American-friendly regime change against North Korea