"We are the only Country in the World STUPID enough to allow “Birthright”...
Don't most countries allow birthright citizenship?
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"We are the only Country in the World STUPID enough to allow “Birthright”...
Don't most countries allow birthright citizenship?
Pretty much the entirety of north and south america do this, probably to ensure the end of slavery and similar colonial practices. The fact Europe doesn't do this is kinda crazy.
probably to ensure the end of slavery and similar colonial practices
Thank you for this. I never thought of birthright citizenship this way. Where could I read more about this
"Humiliated" "storms out" - this is some tabloidly language.
He is a narcissist, humiliation is not part of their makeup. Only thing it knows is hate and derision.
headlines like that are why I stopped going to any Meidas network content
I think they really fucked themselves over with that. like, sure, some of the time it was an accurate serious statement (but not enough people in america care, so it appeared that it wasn't actually as serious but in fact it was just the response to it that was not serious), but a lot of the time they just use clickbait titles and then you're sitting there like wait that's it?
I think they started it as a way to combat the rights headlines that were over the top and show right wingers its ridiculousness. But it’s getting a bit long in the tooth if you ask me.
Justice Neil Gorsuch, who was also appointed by Trump, added to the pressure Sauer faced, asking the seasoned Solicitor General: “Do you think Native Americans are birthright citizens under your test?”
“Ah, I think... so,” he replied, somewhat unconvincingly. “I’ll have to think that through.”
Is that literally the first time he's thought about that?
It isn't. All of the "quotes" the SG was using were Indian law cases about denying Natives citizenship. Gorsuch is an expert in Indian law. He was calling that out.
Think is too strong a term here.
Been made aware.
Aware is too strong a term.
Deport those ungrateful native Americans back to…America???
I suggest you deport them back to where they came from, typically the nicer, more habitable parts of the United States, and give them whatever is there now. It's a poor deal for the Lenape, though, as they'd get New Jersey.
It could be. The point of bringing a case like this probably isn't to win it, necessarily, but to demonstrate loyalty to dear leader. Dear Leader wants the case in order to push the Overton window. Its a can't-lose situation for the regime; they get some benefit from either judicial decision.
The mission is to flood the zone in the hopes that some of their bullshit slips through. The more of it that fails, the better. I don't think losing this ruling is a mortal blow for MAGA in any sense, but it will be better for Americans if this is one of the ones that fails.
Also just to normalize it in the American zeitgeist. Them entertaining it gives the illusion that there's some merit to the argument. In a year or two when everyone believes there's legitimate arguments on both sides of the issue due to it being an issue they keep hearing about in the news, they'll ratchet it a few steps further toward their goal.
I fucking hate that guy and his stupid asshole voice.
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Gorsuch asked if Native Americans would be considered birthright citizens, and the MAGA lawyer said he'd "have to give it some thought."
Shouldn't he have done that BEFORE appearing in front of SCOTUS?
Honestly though, if the Supreme Court were doing their job even slightly properly, the response from the justices to that facile punt of an answer to a very obvious question should have been to utterly excoriate the lawyer - up to, and hopefully including, dismissal with prejudice. The response that fucker gave shows a very obvious lack of preparedness and consideration - or more likely, very thinly veiled contempt of the court.
And Chief Justice John Roberts, another conservative on the bench, also had something of a mic-drop moment when Sauer tried to make the point that “we’re in a new world where eight billion people are one plane ride away from having a child who’s a U.S citizen.”
Roberts replied: “It’s a new world. It’s the same Constitution.”
I expect this is where they pivot next. What does it take to amend the American constitution? Or what does it take to make a new one, given that they will try to justify that an old document does not fit the modern world
It would be impossible in today's political climate.
You need >66% vote in both House and Senate, or you need a Constitutional Convention called by >66% of the state legislatures. Then you need to ratify the amendment, which requires approval by >75% of state legislatures.
What could pass 75% of states?
In this day and age it amazes me we ever had that level of consensus. Something is super broken.
Currently 94% of states have medical marijuana yet its still federally illegal and scheduled as a drug with no medical value. That's a good indicator of consensus not meaning jack to the federal government.
Same as how they passed prohibition.
It's actually quite fascinating even as it is disconcerting.
They lobbied state by state, and focused on a few key legislators, threatening their seat, until the rest fell in line.
They didn't have to fight them all at once, so they could focus their resources.
New world same constitution... God they're right. And I totally agree Trump would change it if he possibly could.
This calls for a return to form. Happy YDAU everyone.

A space launch and the Supreme Court doing its job?
It's like america has a functioning government!!
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For some reason I can't imagine Trump without a full diaper anymore. When I see the news that he went to SCOTUS hearing I'm thinking "and he was sitting there in a full diaper?". I'm reading that he stormed out and I'm thinking "he can walk with a full diaper? what's that like?". Full diaper is now integral part of his image for me, can't help it.

He had a poopy diaper and he needed someone to wipe his pedo bum
Alito sounded like a completely obtuse nincomcoop today. You don’t need to be a constitutional lawyer to see how full of shit the conservatives are.
Roberts replied: “It’s a new world. It’s the same Constitution.”
There's the Chief I know. Originalist in the streets, textualist in the sheets.
FYI: About 35 countries have birthright citizenship, mostly on the American continent. Over 150 countries have citizenship by descent.
Yeah, I always thought that was neat since it's mostly a happy accident from needing to allow freed slaves citizenship. I much prefer that over some sort of bloodline metric.
more like trump storms out to create a gaffe at distracting the media from epstein. it happens everytime epstein starts rearing its head, or when something he did was too severe for the media to ignore.
It’s exhausting to hear this, but 100% true. Trump creates daily outrage so there’s no oxygen in the room to focus on his crimes. We were talking about unredacting the files, holding Trump to account in the court of public opinion, and everything fell away again because he used our military to wage war. It’s taken over the conversation, again, with what remains being posts like these reminding people almost in vain that hey, if Trump breathes a word or walks from point A to B while on camera, its to distract the public from organizing over the truth that he is a narcissistic rapist pedophile with the ability to end the world.
Humiliation? Like he's capable of it. He tweeted they were dumb as he left. As far as he's concerned, he won.
Orders DOW to call in an air strike on SCOTUS.