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[โ€“] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 146 points 2 years ago (1 children)

๐“€ฅ โ€ƒโ€ƒ ๐“† ๐“€•

๐“† ๐“€Ÿ โ€ƒ ๐“€ฃ ๐“€

[โ€“] Nanomerce@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wasn't even aware those were characters you could like put into text

[โ€“] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 64 points 2 years ago (3 children)

unicode is great isnt it,
it supports almost all writing systems

for example here is the transcript of one of the complaints about ea-nasirs shitty copper :

๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’ข ๐’…•๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’ข ๐’…•
๐’†  ๐’‰ˆ ๐’ˆ 
๐’Œ ๐’ˆ  ๐’ˆพ ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ ๐’ˆ 
๐’€€ ๐’‰ก ๐’Œ‘ ๐’ˆ  ๐’‹ซ ๐’€  ๐’‡ท ๐’†ช
๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’„  ๐’‹ซ ๐’€ ๐’‰ ๐’„ 
๐’Œ ๐’ˆ  ๐’€œ ๐’‹ซ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆ 
๐’„– ๐’€ ๐’Š‘ ๐’• ๐’„  ๐’†ช ๐’ด
๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’„€ ๐’…– ๐’€ญ ๐’‚—๐’ช ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’€œ ๐’ฒ ๐’…”
๐’‹ซ ๐’€  ๐’‡ท ๐’…… ๐’ˆ  ๐’‹ซ ๐’€ ๐’‰ ๐’€€ ๐’„ 
๐’Œ‘ ๐’†ท ๐’‹ผ ๐’ ๐’‘
๐’„– ๐’€ ๐’Š‘ ๐’†ท ๐’• ๐’„  ๐’†ช ๐’ด
๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’ˆ  ๐’…ˆ ๐’…† ๐’… ๐’Š‘ ๐’…€
๐’‹ซ ๐’€ธ ๐’†ช ๐’Œฆ ๐’ˆ  ๐’Œ ๐’ˆ  ๐’€œ ๐’‹ซ ๐’ˆ 
๐’‹ณ ๐’ˆ  ๐’‹ผ ๐’‡ท ๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’‡ท ๐’†  ๐’€€
๐’‹ณ ๐’ˆ  [๐’†ท] ๐’‹ผ ๐’‡ท ๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’€œ ๐’†ท ๐’…—
๐’…€ ๐’‹พ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’†  ๐’ˆ  ๐’ˆ  ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ ๐’…Ž
๐’Œ… ๐’…† ๐’…Ž ๐’ˆ  ๐’‰Œ ๐’ˆ 
๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’„  ๐’‹ผ ๐’ˆจ ๐’Šญ ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ
๐’ˆ  ๐’Š‘ ๐’€€ ๐’‰ฟ ๐’‡ท ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’†  ๐’ˆ  ๐’…— ๐’‹พ
๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’†  ๐’‹› ๐’…€ ๐’ˆ  ๐’„ฉ ๐’Š‘ ๐’…Ž
๐’€ธ ๐’ ๐’Š ๐’„  ๐’ˆ 
๐’Œ… ๐’ˆจ ๐’„ฟ ๐’Šญ ๐’„  ๐’ˆ 
๐’„ฟ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ต ๐’‚ต ๐’…ˆ ๐’ˆพ ๐’€ ๐’Š‘ ๐’…Ž
๐’…– ๐’‹พ ๐’…– ๐’‹— ๐’…‡ ๐’…† ๐’‰Œ ๐’‹—
๐’Š‘ ๐’†ช ๐’‹ข ๐’‰ก ๐’Œ… ๐’‹ผ ๐’…• ๐’Š ๐’„ 
๐’„ฟ ๐’ˆพ ๐’€€ ๐’‡ท ๐’…… ๐’‹ผ ๐’‚– ๐’ˆฌ ๐’Œฆ
๐’ˆ  ๐’€ญ ๐’‰ก ๐’Œ ๐’Šญ ๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’„ 
๐’„ฟ ๐’ ๐’Šญ ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ ๐’„ฟ ๐’ˆ 
๐’€œ ๐’‹ซ ๐’ˆ  ๐’…ˆ ๐’…† ๐’… ๐’Š‘ ๐’…€ ๐’Œ… ๐’ˆจ ๐’‚Š ๐’…–
๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’ˆ  ๐’†ท ๐’…— ๐’Š ๐’‰ฟ ๐’…Ž
๐’Šญ ๐’„ฟ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ต ๐’‹พ ๐’…€ ๐’Œ… ๐’Šบ ๐’ช ๐’Œ‘
๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’„  ๐’‹ซ ๐’• ๐’ ๐’Œ’
๐’…‡ ๐’€ธ ๐’‹ณ ๐’„ฟ ๐’…—
๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ ๐’ƒฒ ๐’‡ท
๐’Œ‹ ๐’ ๐’„˜ ๐’ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’†ช ๐’€œ ๐’ฒ ๐’…”
๐’…‡ ๐’‹— ๐’ˆช ๐’€€ ๐’ ๐’Œ
๐’Œ‹ ๐’ ๐’„˜ ๐’ ๐’„ฟ ๐’ฒ ๐’…”
๐’‚Š ๐’ฃ ๐’… ๐’Šญ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ ๐’€ญ ๐’Œ“
๐’†ช ๐’‰ก ๐’ŠŒ ๐’…— ๐’„  ๐’‰Œ ๐’ฃ ๐’
๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‰ฟ ๐’Š‘ ๐’…Ž ๐’Šญ ๐’€€ ๐’‹พ
๐’†  ๐’„ฟ ๐’‹ผ ๐’ ๐’Šญ ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ
๐’†  ๐’‹› ๐’„ฟ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ต ๐’‚ต ๐’…ˆ ๐’ˆพ ๐’€ ๐’Š‘
๐’Œ… ๐’ŠŒ ๐’‹พ ๐’…‹
๐’†  ๐’‹› ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’‚ต ๐’‹พ ๐’…€
๐’‹— ๐’‡ป ๐’ˆ  ๐’„  ๐’‚Š ๐’‡ท ๐’…— ๐’„ฟ ๐’‹—
๐’†  ๐’ˆ  ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ ๐’†  ๐’€€ ๐’„ 
๐’‰ฟ ๐’Š‘ ๐’€€ ๐’„  ๐’†ท ๐’บ ๐’ˆฌ ๐’‚ต ๐’„ 
๐’†ท ๐’€€ ๐’ˆ  ๐’„ฉ ๐’Š’ ๐’…— ๐’‹ซ ๐’†ท ๐’ˆ  ๐’€œ
๐’„ฟ ๐’ˆพ ๐’†  ๐’Š“ ๐’‡ท ๐’…€
๐’…– ๐’‹พ ๐’ˆพ ๐’€€ ๐’Œ‘ ๐’ˆพ ๐’ ๐’€ ๐’ˆ 
๐’‚Š ๐’‡ท ๐’† 
๐’…‡ ๐’€€ ๐’ˆพ ๐’Šญ ๐’Œ… ๐’ˆจ ๐’„ฟ ๐’Šญ ๐’€ญ ๐’‰Œ
๐’ˆพ ๐’‹› ๐’„ด ๐’‹ซ ๐’„  ๐’‚Š ๐’ ๐’‘ ๐’…—

in the original cuneiform as a copypasta

[โ€“] samus12345@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I wonder if Nanni would be satisfied to know that over 3,700 years later, people still know that Ea-Nasir was an asshole?

[โ€“] CosmicApe@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How do I save comments on kbin?

[โ€“] Deiv@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 years ago

Uninstall kbin and install something better

[โ€“] habanhero@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Screenshot it

[โ€“] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks to Unicode we have the many-eyes seraphim: ๊™ฎ

[โ€“] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

biblically accurate Typography,
quite literally

[โ€“] sarmale@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How many unicode characters could you add to the standard until it becomes unreliable?

[โ€“] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

aparently unicode supports about 1.1 million characters, and we ~~currently only use 96,382 as of version 4.0~~

EDIT: i just read that unicode 4.0 is very outdated, current version is unicode 15.1 with 149,878 characters.

[โ€“] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A Unicode character can be up to 4 bytes, so 2^32 or 4,294,967,296 potential unique characters. And it'd be easy enough to adjust the standard to allow for an extra byte(s) if necessary -- it's been done before.

[โ€“] Turun@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is incorrect. While in UTF-32 a character (actually a code point) requires 4 bytes, and in UTF-8 up to 4 bytes, the Unicode standard is limited to 17*2^16 code points. (edit: apparently because that is the limit of UTF-16. 4 Byte UTF-8 can encode 2^21 code points, but it is not technically limited to four bytes, so in total is a ble to encode 2^31 code points)

Unicode is the standard that says "the thing we call captial A is the 65th character", literally defining a mapping from numbers to concepts.
UTF-8 or UTF-32 are a way to encode a list of numbers in a more (UTF-8) or less (UTF-32) efficient way.

[โ€“] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago

I'm at a loss

[โ€“] cmbabul@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Goddamn it

[โ€“] TulipanJones@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I didnโ€™t get it until I read your frustration, and then the weight and dread of comprehension hit me

[โ€“] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Goddamnit. Me too.

[โ€“] shinysquirrel@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 years ago

this is the new rickroll isn't it

[โ€“] kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At first I thought it was about NNN

[โ€“] Stamets@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago

I forgot it changed over from Locktober

[โ€“] FellowHuman@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Please help?

[โ€“] habanhero@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago

Seems like you're at a loss.

[โ€“] 0ops@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Dang I even thought that there was something profound in there until I checked the comments.