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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 11 hours ago

OP believes that leaving in the comic name or artist's signature is "advertising".

https://lemmus.org/post/21226925

They have been caught repeatedly removing them through cropping and poor use of AI.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 39 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Bro what are you doing. Give credit where credit is due. It's not a watermark, it's a signature. Signatures aren't ads. And what if people want to read more from a particular artist and you've just removed all trace of the original artist?

You're on the wrong hill here. Stop making life more difficult for yourself and everyone else. Just post the original comic.

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

OP is the most misdirected backwards shit I've ever heard of. They enjoy the comic but refuse to give credit to the creator. It's so stupid it must be an April Fools, right? Right?

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 76 points 15 hours ago
[–] notabot@piefed.social 63 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Why did you choose to remove the original author's name from this?

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] notabot@piefed.social 5 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, I know, I've seen their posts before. I hoped that asking would both bring it to the attention of people who hadn't noticed, and give him a chance to explain himself should he wish to try.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Idk. Which is more media illiterate, thinking that Rorschach was a net good, or insisting that narrative elements need to fit into a good/evil dichotomy?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Who is insisting that narrative elements should fit into a good/evil dichotomy here?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Who is insisting that narrative elements should fit into a good/evil dichotomy here?

The interlocutor in the comic who is asking the other party in the comic to distill Rorschach role to "Good guy/ Bad guy", then penalizing when they hesitantly give what the interlocutor has presupposed as the "wrong" answer, as they write down the point "media illiterate".

I mean, the comics right there. Did you look at it before replying?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, the simple question of 'Is character x or y?' is very different from 'The character is either x or y, choose.'. You can easily answer 'neither' to the question of 'Is character good or bad?'.

That being said, Alan Moore himself stated Rorschach is meant to be a bad example. So if you want to make the argument that Alan Moore is media illiterate, I'm all ears — I don't really know much about the guy because Watchmen really wasn't that impressive to me. (I recognize that if I had read it when it was new and hadn't inspired so many other stories that this opinion might be different.)

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

'Nice argument, but I've already depicted you as the soyjak and myself as the chad.' energy.

At least I can confirm my tag, saves me from needing to interact with you.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean I appreciate you participating in at least that you're continuing to demonstrate, if not media illiteracy, actual illiteracy.

My remix of the comic was done to demonstrate the same obtuseness of the comic, which is exactly the point I'm making. Good versus evil, and the idea that one is a right interpretation and the other is wrong, is exceptionally reductionist. And you, and I really have to say thank you for this, you playing the part of just parroting that exceptionally reductionist logic, for which, I really can't thank you enough.

Not only have you did we get to experience a worked example, we got to live out a meta-version of the comic itself. And we could not have done it without your media illiteracy or reductionist mindset. 10/10. No notes.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

My man, I need you to recognize — your remix of the comic in and of itself is reductionist. You choose non sequential comments to portray some kind of meta commentary on something you don't even seem to fully understand.

Let me be clear. You are allowed to attribute whatever meaning you want to whatever story or art medium you want. That is, ultimately, the goal of any artist — to evoke something in you.

When the artist themselves attributes a word like 'good' or 'bad' to the description of their character, to the very essence behind their creation — you are not allowed to simply say that they are wrong.

You are free to create your own art where the rules are different from theirs. Where there is no truly good or bad individual, just varying shades of gray. However you look like a DBZ power scaler when you attribute complexity to a character where there is none. I'm serious, no one looks dumber than the people spending way more time than they should arguing about things that the creator is likely to just fucking forget (rip Toriyama, ILY).

Rorschach is meant to be a bad example. You are not meant to want to be like him. Alan Moore thinks you're a sweaty nerd and that you should stay away from him if you admire Rorschach (I'm paraphrasing but that is more or less his statement on the matter). Media literacy should lead you to answer the question of 'Is Rorschach good or bad?' with neither (thus explaining a more nuanced perspective that is just headcanon) or no.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Bruh you are just like, a getting whooshed machine?

your remix of the comic in and of itself is reductionist.

Yes, that is what I told you, because you needed it explained. I made a comic mocking you for doing the thing. Then I had to make an entire comment explaining it to you. Thank you for FINALLY catching up. It took you several hours to finally get that you were being whooshed, but at least you've finally landed.

And the point of making the remix is to highlight the point that the comic, and yourself are being reductionist in the same way: The edit is making fun of the fact that you are doing the exact thing I'm being critical of.. But instead of pushing back on the critique of the comic (which I maintain as reductionist), you actually engaged in the act of being reductionist, which again, thanks, because this has been hilarious.

When the artist themselves attributes a word like ‘good’ or ‘bad’ to the description of their character, to the very essence behind their creation — you are not allowed to simply say that they are wrong.

Finally something substantive.

No. The artist (or creator of any kind really) has no say in how someone else wants to interpret their work. They can ask you to interpret it this way, or that way, but its truly not up to them. How people choose to consume something is up to them. The act of artistic expression is always a joint exercise between both the creator and the interpreter of that creation. You, as an artist, don't get to choose how your work is interpreted or received. You can advocate or hope its received and taken to mean something, but that does mean it actually does.

I think a better way to criticize media is instead of thinking characters as good or evil, ask, "are they effective?", and in this sense, I consider Rorschach to be an effective character. They aren't there to be good or evil, they're there to be a reflective surface for the world they find themselves in, and in this way they are an effective character.

And if an artist misses what they are doing with their own work, and they do ALL the time, I don't need to agree with them.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Uh, okay, whatever this is..

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[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 3 points 15 hours ago

sometimes I have to go to the source link to see the image, the rainbow icon next to the upvote

I think it's a federation issue with your instance and the host of the community with some mixing of where the op is federating from. only happens to me once in awhile and usually newer posts