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[–] leoj@piefed.social 1 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

Iran has shown that the United States needs NATO, and NATO needs the United States, more than ever. If Iranian Shaheeds and their manpeds / S300s are hitting US fighters and sneaking past defenses, who knows what more advanced or just sheer high scale weaponry could do, air superiority does not feel guaranteed.

A near peer (Russia) conflict would be ugly on a scale not seen since WWI, a true peer (China) conflict would unleash horrors we cannot imagine. We will all need each other, as NATO is a significant deterrent factor, which could actually save the lives of millions through deterrence, or shift the balance of warfare through increase manufacturing and safe zone output.

[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 29 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

At this point... just fuck off already. Rip off the bandage and let us start working on fixing the consequences. Evacuate the bases you guys have in the EU. Just leave us alone. Do the whole isolationism thing. Please, I beg of you.

You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of Dog, go.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 10 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Do the whole isolationism thing. Please, I beg of you.

I don't think that's what's Trump intends to do after leaving NATO.

[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 7 points 1 hour ago

I know, it was just my personal suggestion. IMO its time for America to do some isolation and look in the mirror for a decade, maybe two.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Apart from all the wars he's launching.

[–] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 hour ago

Well NATO is older than 13

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 52 points 3 hours ago

Epstein files. Now.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 hours ago

Great. Get lost. So when you attack Greenland or Canada, article 5 can be used against the US instead of it being an internal dispute within NATO.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 9 points 1 hour ago

NATO is a defensive alliance. USA just showed the world it can't even defend a 100 mile strip of water. How will it defend its allies when USA is crying it can't do it and the allies have to take over. There isn't much added value.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 57 points 3 hours ago

Sadly pulling out is not something the family is known for. Imagine if his father had. Man now wouldn't that be something.

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 16 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

"Wah, wah, wah, im a little bitch"

  • trump, everytime he says anything
[–] Bell@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

"Don't look there, look over here!"

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 hours ago

everytime

Not a word, my dude.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago

I wish his hideous mom had done the same 80 fucking years ago or however old this sack of shit is

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 32 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

If anyone had any doubts about whether or not Putin was pulling the strings, this should silence them.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not a carefully choreographed puppet show...

It's like an art exhibit where any random person can walk up and yank on strings, often in opposite directions.

You're assigning order to chaos, the same reason every early civilization had a "lightning god".

Our brains want an explanation, so we invent them to explain chaos. Even when the explanation is clearly not matching up to reality.

Reality is a lot worse than just trump doing whatever Putin asks.

It's less "puppet" and more multi-player QWOP where random people each have a single button.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 13 points 2 hours ago

Putin controls a large number of strings and buttons.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

The orange child rapist is an idiot... the occam's razor is still that he is too stupid, has no clue how anything works and is simply making one foolish decision after another.

Being this stupid, he is very easily manipulated (as is evident by now), so maybe Putin is manipulating him... but honestly, trump is simply too stupid to be anyone's "asset"

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 3 points 50 minutes ago

Yeah I'm giving him way too much credit

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 4 points 2 hours ago

In the end it's just a rich kid used to getting what he wants even if it's stupid that got a fat cheque from his father

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago
[–] raman_klogius@ani.social 8 points 2 hours ago
[–] lime@feddit.nu 5 points 2 hours ago

oh, please do.

[–] faizalr@piefed.social 5 points 2 hours ago

Most welcome.