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I just rewatched Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight trilogy and following Bane's and Miranda's story made me realize that I'm a bit saturated in regards to playing as the hero, the protagonist, the "good guy" in PC games. While I love saving the world as much as the next person, I'd love to play as some perhaps self-righteous villain, or antagonist, or simply somebody portrayed in a way that's meant to make the player sympathize with questionable morality or, at the very least, be conflicted about why you suddenly find yourself rooting for them.

I'm mostly looking for story driven open world single player games, but any recommendations are welcome. :)

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[–] arschflugkoerper@feddit.org 3 points 6 minutes ago

Since you left room for interpretation I have to mention Factorio :D

[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 3 points 15 minutes ago

Disco Elysium's protagonist is a walking disaster and there are a lot of ways you can play him. Honestly playing him as a totally morally upright professional is one of the harder ways to play. You definitely don't feel like a hero while you're playing

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 33 minutes ago

Saints Row games. They're like GTA, but increasingly over the top in their parody. You're the boss of a criminal gang. 2 is still "normal parody" and a bit dated, 3 jumped the shark while doing a kickflip with a jet ski, 4 is even more insane.

Sleeping Dogs you play as a cop, but you can betray the law and side more with the criminals.

Warcraft 3 (old but gold) - the human campaign of the base game gets you from a hopeful young paladin prince into a cold, vengeful psychopath; the following undead campaign is said prince (well, king now) finishing the job of killing everyone and further fucking everything. The expansion has 3 extra campaigns, none with "good guys"

Divinity Original Sin (1 and 2) lets you play as big of an asshole as you'd like. Of the Elder Scrolls games, Morrowind is the one that lets you be the biggest bad guy around (you can still finish the game even if you kill every important npc and break every quest)

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 28 minutes ago

Payday 2 (dunno about 3 since it's been called out for being a phone it home version of 2) but yea... you're %100 not the good guy at all. You're a thief robbing banks and peoples homes.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 15 minutes ago

Spec Ops: The Line?

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 minutes ago

Spec Ops the Line is probably what you want. It's not open world, but the story is excellent.
Bard's Tale is old, but the story is fun and you aren't really a good guy.
Scarface is a GTA reskin that retcons the end of the movie to have Tony Montana live to build a cocaine empire.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 minute ago

The Tropico series of city builders, you are the dictator of an island.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 1 points 44 seconds ago* (last edited 22 seconds ago)

I've just started The Necromancer's Tale, which lets you explore a minor noble's fall from grace into (I think) lichdom. Just came out last summer

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 51 minutes ago

Civ6
Lets get to war

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 1 hour ago
[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Not even one mention of Prototype. What have the world become.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 32 minutes ago

Prototype. Man. What a fucking BLAST that was. The super powers you had by the end of the game combined with the techniques you could use.

Surfing corpses, eating people alive to clone their appearance. Slicing, smashing, or just tearing apart tanks. Throwing cars. It was just absolute mayhem and I doubt we will see another game quite so unhinged.

[–] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago

The Dark Queen of Mortholme. You play as the boss, repeatedly killing the hero who comes back stronger and more skilled.

[–] impudentmortal@lemmy.world 18 points 2 hours ago

The GTA series might be a good example. All of the protagonists of the games commit exceedingly worse crimes as the game progresses but they're made to be sympathetic since they just want success in a world with not much other opportunities.

Games with karma systems may work as well if the bad option isn't overtly evil. I'm thinking games like Dishonored, Fable 3, Undertale, or any Bethesda game.

Anti-hero protagonists like Kratos from God of War, Arthur Morgan from Red Dead 2, and V from Cyberpunk could also somewhat fit the bill.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 6 points 1 hour ago

Destroy all Humans, Call of Duty, Bioshock

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 hours ago

Some of the better RPGs allow you to play as an evil guy (equally fleshed out as the good guy playthrough), e.g. Baldur's Gate 3 (it even has a special evil background storyline called The Dark Urge) or (some of?) the Mass Effect titles.

Cult of the Lamb is also a great game where you play a cult leader. Although the game's design is strong on the entertaining/funny side, it's kind of dark also.

Stellaris is a grand strategy game where you can play anything, from a ruthless ruler trying to destroy the whole galaxy to a pacifist trader.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 points 1 hour ago

This might produce some arguments, but The Last of Us. Joel is far from a good guy. This is established in the first few minutes of the game and you get enough "hints" about that throughout.

There's actually a pretty new video about that on Second Wind: https://youtu.be/fY1FsMK_cos

Other more obvious games are many many Star Wars games where you can either choose or outright start as the bad guy, like TIE Fighter, the Jedi Knight series, Knights of the Old Republic 1+2 + The Old Republic, Squadrons, those Battlefield games and the Age of Empires clones (can't remember the names) and Force Commander as well I think. Oooh and Rebellion.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Dark Souls 3. NO ONE can convince me you're the good guy in that situation. It's a shit world that ISN'T worth saving and the people who all realize this are the only ones that can save it and refuse to. so your job is to force them to save it.

All you have to do is read the lore on Yhorm and then tell me you're the good guy.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Mouthwashing.

You could do a durge run in Baldur's Gate 3. Maybe also Hitman, but I think that's more anti-hero.

[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Life and Suffering of Sir Brante (and the upcoming sequel, of Prince Jerian) sees you play a character who is generally morally neutral - you choose your own path and can absolutely "evil max" and it has benefits sometimes.

[–] defrostedLasagna4921@piefed.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

Entropy Zero 2. It's a mod of Half-Life 2 where you play as a combine soldier and it's actually very well made for a mod.

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Any strategy game while you are evil laughing nefariously.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 hours ago

Dungeon Keeper comes to mind

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The Witcher is quite famously morally grey, with no "good" choice to many of the major decisions.

[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Well, I may as well keep plugging my current obsession, Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader. It's a CRPG somewhere between BG3 and XCOM in gameplay, with a grimdark-flavored splash of Mass Effect.

You have 3 "convictions" that many lot of your decisions fall under. Iconoclast is kind of your standard good guy, but maybe somewhat naive trying to be that good guy in the Warhammer verse. But more relevant to you are Dogmatic and Heretic.

Heretic is pretty much evil as far as I can tell. Chaos worship and slaughter for power. Dogmatic is more like Judge Dredd, maybe? You make some harsh fucking decisions as dogmatic, like liquefying a few thousand people to power a computer you need to use, but you are doing it for what your character truly believes is the greater good of the Imperium.

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous, Owlcat's previous game, has some baddie paths too. You're still fighting demons, but it's more of an evil vs evil in some cases. Especially Lich or Swarm.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Overlord, the first game