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[–] Turret3857 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

This feels a bit fear-monguerish. People should be worried about state surveillance, not Giuseppe the first time business owner installing local CCTV for theft prevention.

I don't like the idea of being recorded without consent, but i also am more worried about Flock, Ring and Nest services more than I am general CCTV. Most CCTV systems are local, and not uploaded to a central Palintir powered AI database. This graphic feels misleading without disclosing if CCTV counts as "locally owned camera used for insurance claims" or if it means "No warrant needed government surveillance device".

edit: and this source is sketchy as fuck. What does "Visual Capitalist" mean?? The website provides no "about" page, in fact it provides nothing outside of an infinitely scrolling "posts" page and a "sign in/sign up" button. It looks like venture capitalist startup garbage. https://www.voronoiapp.com/

edit 2: I found the actual source, and the actual source says basically the same thing I did.

Where possible, we have only included public CCTV cameras, including cameras installed on public buildings, cameras used by law enforcement, cameras installed on public transport, and traffic cameras with surveillance capabilities (i.e. automatic number plate recognition). However, in some instances, it may not be clear what cameras are included, meaning some private camera figures may also be included in the totals. We believe this may be the case for Indore.

So this admission, in my opinion, taints the study entirely. I'm not going to say surveillance isn't a problem. Surveillance is a HUGE problem, but we should be relying on hard facts, not grey area statistics that may or may not be true. Flock ALPR cameras are funded by Palintir. Palintir is Peter Theils brainchild. Palintir's goal is the mass profiling and survilleing of the general populace. Palintir has partnerships with international companies, so it is not limited to US surveillance. All of these are hard facts that can be easily proven with no grey area. If we want the general population to start giving a fuck, we need to stick to those kinds of facts.