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[–] fizzle@quokk.au 7 points 3 hours ago

God this is a weird thread.

How come human laws don't apply to animals?

Sorry to break it to you kids but billions of people all over the world literally eat animals every day.

Barbaric ? Perhaps, but it's fair to assume that 100% of your ancestors in the last 100,000 years have delighted in this activity as often as possible.

You may not wish to acknowledge this but the reality is: your beloved dog or cat is a lesser being, assigned very few rights.

Obviously if you have a pet dog then you treat that dog differently as you would a chicken living in a cage in a shed with 10,000 other chickens in cages but that dog's right to life is merely an extension of your rights as that dog's owner.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Because the foundation of everything related to legal framework we built, is human exceptionalism. And human exceptionalism has foundation in darwinian natural selection.

Tl;DR This is how world works

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Because of religious moralistic bullshit.

Good lord it is way past time to allow people to Euthanize themselves.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Death with dignity really should be more flexible than it currently is.

[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 7 hours ago

Because humans apply higher standards to themselves then they do to other animals.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 46 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 39 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Including the U.S.

The answer OP is looking for is: if you make it easy to kill people in pain you make it easier to kill people who aren't. This is true for any animal including dogs our law just cares about their lives less.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Countries that have assisted dying do not make it "easy". Especially when someone isn't physically ill, they throw every type of therapy and help at them to persuade them not to kill themselves.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 6 hours ago

Didn't say they did. Just "easier"

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 39 points 17 hours ago

Another answer OP is looking for and probably doesn't want to hear: most people value human life more than non-human life.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (6 children)

Bad example. In the US it's super cool to deny care for dollars. Illness and death are built into the system from for profit hospitals to health insurance and pharma pricing.

Edit: Downvote all you like, but Luigi isn't a folk hero without reason.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

You cannot put a person down for being sick. Even in countries where euthanasia is allowed, the person has to ask for it, under formal circumstances following formal rules.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's totally besides the point. The reason humans get to say when a pet should be euthanized is just because animals aren't capable of deciding it and communicating it.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, not when a perfectly healthy happy good dog is put down because the owner find it best, or when an animal shelter put down animals they can't find homes for, or when a Zoo put down young animals, because their cuteness has been expended, and the zoo doesn't want more grown animals.
In all these cases there is absolutely no reason to think the animal wants to die. So it is not about communication, it's because an animal is a thing you can own and do with what you want, as long as it isn't too cruel.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 4 points 6 hours ago

That's not euthanasia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia

Quote:

Euthanasia ... is the practice of intentionally ending life to eliminate pain and suffering.

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[–] forestbeasts@pawb.social 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is apparently an insane hot take, but personally, I don't think it's okay.

It's okay to treat your dog as family and to reject the concept of "it's okay to kill him if he's in enough pain!", same as they would never even think of suggesting doing that to a human.

-- Frost

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

My cat suddenly became paralysed last year. What should I have done?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 28 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

It's actually way worse, because you can have a dog put down that is perfectly healthy, even when other people want to adopt the dog.
If you have a dog you literally own it, and the only regulation that protects the dog are rules against animal cruelty.
You cannot own a human being.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Not here in Germany. You won't find a vet who will kill a healthy animal. Kill shelters are also not a thing. Ditto the UK.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

OK then you are more progressed than we are here in Denmark.

But our neighbor did exactly what I wrote, in her defense she was dying of cancer, but we and another family she knew both offered to adopt the dog, the dog was very fond of both of us, my wife walked it daily, and when we visited, the dog would jump on the couch and lie across my lap, which it did for nobody else. But she went ahead and had the dog put down anyway. Perfectly legal as it is done humanely. My wife actually has trauma about the incident, because the vet came to her house, and my wife was there for support, and when my wife found the leash to hold him, he was so filled with joy because he thought they were going for a walk, but it was only to hold him while he was injected.

So here you can have perfectly healthy happy good dogs put down, even when 2 families were ready to adopt it.
Her reason for doing it was that she didn't want the dog to miss her after she died.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 14 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

You cannot own a human being.

Anymore. Humans can be amazing and very cruel.

But yes, ask a veterinarian and they will tell you sadly why.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 14 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Unless this was a case of USA defaultism, slavery still exists. In fact there's more slaves today than ever before. 50 million slaves last I checked. Mostly because overall human population has obviously increased drastically too but I digress.

Also USA constitution exempts prisoners so still okay in a limited capacity.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Privatized prisons are slavery too, you're right.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 5 points 14 hours ago

State-run prisons where labor can be required would also qualify as slavery by any definition.

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[–] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Found Kristi Noem's account

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 17 hours ago

My stepfather made use of Oregon's Death With Dignity law. Him scheduling his death a week out was... weird, but I'm always glad it was an option.

Though at one point a doc did legally have to inform him that instead of the painless and easy medical assisted death he could instead choose to stop eating or drinking.

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

Society does not value animal lives as much as human lives. You're free to draw your personal line elsewhere.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Humans should be allowed to be put out of their misery as well

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 11 points 17 hours ago

Some countries allow it. The major difference is that other people cannot choose for you. Your family can't "put you down" but you can choose to have a doctor assist.

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

And shouldn’t need to be terminally ill or old.

If I wanna peace out (humanely) at any age past adulthood, I should be able to.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 6 hours ago
[–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 14 hours ago

It depends on the state, actually. Some states allow that.

[–] r0ertel@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Ibfind it ironic that to put an animal out of it's misery is called being "humane" though to do it to another person is called "homicide".

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 12 hours ago

Well it's the definition of homicide, which is just death caused by another person.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 5 points 16 hours ago
[–] TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 2 points 13 hours ago

People downvote but don't read the name of the community the post is coming from.

[–] unabart@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago

Dogs don’t pay taxes or create new parishoners.

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