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[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

if you have electricity in the shed, but you can't run an ethernet cable, you can use ethernet over the powerline, it is a bit less reliable than a network cable, but it is way better than wifi. i used it extensively when i was renting. the "worst" part was that they would fall out of sync occasionally (1-2x/year)

[–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Go stand with your phone where you'd expect to place the extender.

If it gets a strong signal, you are probably fine.

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 5 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

It's good, not excellent, does it mean with the extender the signal in the office will be good or just weak?

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago

Probably a bit better than your phone, depending on models (phone, extender, router), of course. At least in theory repeaters can have better antennas and more power to spare.

If you can put a network cable though at least one of the walls you might as well just put an outdoor AP (main building) or WiFi bridge (shed) there. That way the signals only have to go through one wall.

[–] elmicha@feddit.org 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You can put your phone in hotspot mode and place it where the extender should go, then see how good the signal in the office is.

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

That's a good idea but unfortunately i have terrible cell reception and my mobile is useless without wifi.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago

You can set up a mobile Hotspot without phone reception. The Hotspot won't have any working internet connection, but you will still be able to judge the signal strength, and even measure the speed using iperf

[–] p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I can do that? I never tried, I assumed it wouldn't make sense to hotspot wifi.

[–] p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social 1 points 18 hours ago

You can at least on android and I thought ios too now but idk

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

I think it will partially depend on the model of extender you bought.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 23 hours ago

Literally nothing else helps. That distance could be void or filled with lead blocks.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Not really any way to determine this on paper, really. Other than 'it depends'.

Depends on what materials the walls are made of, the model of your wifi router, the orientation of your router's antenna(s), the orientation of your laptop or phone or whatever's antenna, what obstacles or vegetation might be between the two buildings, what other devices nearby might be producing interference, whether or not Mercury is in retrograde, etc. In an edge case, even the daily humidity or precipitation may make the difference between a usable or unusable signal.


As others have said, the best way to test would be to just stand with your phone at the location where you'd put the repeater and see if your phone gets a strong wifi signal there. If it does, a repeater will probably work.


However, a repeater isn't the only solution that could work here. Other potentially good solutions:

  • Run an ethernet cable from the house to the office. (Faster, more reliable, but would require running wires.)

  • Use a network over power lines setup, to have wired network without needing to run any new wires. (Still faster than wifi; might not be quite as reliable as other setups, though.)

  • Use a directional wifi antenna to extend the range of your router. If you point it at the office, that will probably extend the range more than enough to reach it. (A directional antenna will be more reliable than a repeater, and for a comparable price. Also will save a little electricity, since you don't have to power the repeater.) If you want to be really cheap and creative, you can make a directional antenna -- that can actually be a lot more effective and reliable than it looks, and can be done at basically no cost.

  • Have you tried simply using it without any upgrades? It's only 70ft away, and wifi can definitely reach that far if conditions are good. Maybe try moving your wifi router closer to a window or exterior wall. If your router has movable antennas, make sure they're positioned vertically for best signal distance. If you have a lot of neighbors, go into your router's configuration and experiment with changing the wifi channel. If I remember right, there are 11 different channels, and if you're on the same channel as a different nearby network, the two will interfere with each other and have greatly reduced range ... but if you have it on a different channel, that will avoid interference and improve range.

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for your detailed answer. There's only one wall between the office door and the router, the wall is a typical 2x6 with insulation and sheathing and all that, and the signal there is weak to medium. But once inside the office we can add two more walls impeding the signal and it's gone. Inside the shed the signal is good so I'm guessing the extender would work, if only having to pass one wall. Otherwise it all comes down to Mercury's retrograde.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Seriously, though, maybe try this solution first:

As stupid as that looks, it's very possible that it would be more than enough to get your wifi signal where it needs to go, at basically zero cost and zero energy usage.

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

Brilliant! But alas my router doesn't have antennas like that. I can try a curved sheet of aluminum and put it behind, maybe it will work, worth a try! Thanks.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I have something similar to a small cabin, build with unifi in mesh mode. Works just fine, but i only need connectivity, not much more but one video stream is possible.

Depends very much on the repeater and on what you gonna do in the office. Stay away from one-radio repeaters. You get better bandwith and stability with :

A) an outdoor ap in wifi client mode. You run a cable from that to a switch in the office and cables from there to pc, printers etc. That's how I connected a remote ip camera. Works flawless.

B) multi radio repeater (one radio talks to the router, the other radio is an ap on another chanel)

C) two one-radio ap's with utp between them and the same as above under B

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I appreciate your answer but I'm not that good with tech or computers so I don't know how to do any of what you suggested. I was thinking it's as easy as putting an extender box and that's it.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

In that case, select a few that looks interesting to you. Read & compare tests but above all user reviews. (Positive, review ... well yeah, you expect it to work. I usually find the low reviews more telling than the positives. What one sees as negative might not be relevant for me or may be critical.)

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago

Yeah that's what I do too usually, just read the critical reviews. Thanks.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The biggest problem you’re going to run into is impedance. This can be walls, studs, concrete, etc.

Is there any way you can run a cable between the two buildings? You can then hook up your repeater and it would be guaranteed to work; with more effort.

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago

Yes I read that connecting the router to the extender with a cable is better than wireless. In the shed the connection is good, I'm hoping the extender would send it to the office.

[–] usrtrv@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Another potential fix, just get a better router or dedicated hot spot. Repeaters can sometimes be flaky.

[–] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah i read they can be flaky.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 1 points 9 hours ago

If you are using this for work don't get the el cheapo option

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 23 hours ago

I would just get some direct burial ethernet cable, drill a couple of holes and install an access point in the office. WiFi repeaters can be unreliable, especially if there are already a lot of WiFi networks in your area.

[–] lakemalcom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Lan over power lines sometimes works in these cases

[–] lakemalcom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 hours ago

Do yourself a favour and don't buy the TP-Link ones though. I have TP-Link powerline adapters too, and they kept losing the connection over time. I later switched to FRITZ! and those have been working perfectly fine for years.

That said, the powerline solution only works well if both devices are on the same phase.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Those will jam radio reception for your whole neighborhood. They should be illegal.