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[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 105 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Remember: Even piracy doesn't offer absolution.

These properties rely on popular / universal awareness to achieve network effects and cement themselves within modern culture. When this happens, the memes and concepts from the property worm their way into everyday language ("he who cannot be named", "10 points for Gryffindor", etc) and help keep everyone else buying.

The only answer is to treat people talking about Harry Potter as you would someone who keeps talking about the greatness of R Kelly's music or Bill Cosby's comedy.

[–] CarnivorousCouch@lemmy.world 56 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Thank you! It's been super disheartening to see people get excited about Harry Potter all over again, just as it was to see friends buy the video game a few years back. Many people who want to ostensibly call themselves allies are more than happy to engage in Nostalgia over Solidarity.

I read the Harry Potter books as a child. I enjoyed them a normal amount. I think I dressed up as HP for Halloween one year. But then I grew older and I "graduated" to other fantasy, as I would generally expect someone to do.

Now when I think about Harry Potter, I always think of Ursula K Le Guin's comments:

Q: Nicholas Lezard has written ‘Rowling can type, but Le Guin can write.’ What do you make of this comment in the light of the phenomenal success of the Potter books? I’d like to hear your opinion of JK Rowling’s writing style

UKL: I have no great opinion of it. When so many adult critics were carrying on about the “incredible originality” of the first Harry Potter book, I read it to find out what the fuss was about, and remained somewhat puzzled; it seemed a lively kid’s fantasy crossed with a “school novel”, good fare for its age group, but stylistically ordinary, imaginatively derivative, and ethically rather mean-spirited.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Ursula K Le Guin is a great author! And as far as I understand, a pretty good person, too.

[–] Sturgist@piefed.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

It feels like that's not really a big ask...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Yeah but this is 2026. People don't read books anymore. So all they have is nostalgia for the one series they read as a kid.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 0 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

This reeks of virtue signaling. Let me get this straight, your proposition, rather than holding the author accountable, is to demonize everyone who has ever enjoyed the stories as children?

Dolores Umbridge called, she wants her authoritarian moral policing back.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 23 hours ago

it’s literally just the same story again too, for the 3rd time

if you’re willing to throw trans people under the bus to watch a remake, you’re genuinely fucking pathetic at this point, like do something else with your life jfc

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (5 children)

What if I pirate it, talk to no one about it (not by choice but still) and then destroy all memories of it through aggressive drug use?

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 10 points 16 hours ago

Why not just skip to the drug use phase?

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 22 hours ago

You just want to do drugs

[–] brunox@feddit.cl 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Skip the extra steps and go straight to the drug use, that's what id do.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

that’s what id do.

id sure, but what ego do?^[Don't mind me, silly joke]

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 17 hours ago

Don't go for the aggressively drug use, every 1.5 months go for an LSD or MDMA trip (3 months between each). Don't heavily mix with alcohol (I like to have a beer mit trip but that's all). Look up for different kind of electronic music parties, you're going to find one that match your vibe.

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[–] Laser@feddit.org 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd pirate it but I find the story just not interesting or worth my time.

I read Philosopher's Stone about 25 years ago as a teenager and wasn't impressed. Didn't read any other because that one already felt like wasted time. Went to a movie in 2007 (no clue which one that was) and again forgettable. Not bad, in fact I still remember Die Hard 4 that I also watched back then because it was so bad. That HP movie? No idea about plot or anything. Another one? Thanks, I'm good.

Even if Rowling wasn't a disgusting person, I feel like what I've seen of her work is just not great. It's not terrible, but I don't care for it at all.

But also, she can get fucked.

comic making fun of her dumb tweets

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 24 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Behold! I give you: woman.

[–] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

A featherless biped with egg laying equipment then

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

Just pluck her

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

And broad flat nails.

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Technically, chickens are hatched, not born. So not "born with egg-producing equipment".

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[–] Hoimo@ani.social 15 points 1 day ago

2007 was Order of the Phoenix, which is the most boring and also does not make any sense at all out of context. Strangely enough, that movie was also my first experience with Harry Potter, because a friend invited me to go see it. I did read the books later, which were decent enough, but like all global phenomena, it's not really about being the best of the best, but being in the right place at the right time.

The fandom was fun though, the discussions on Tumblr, the theories, the fanfics, the comic cons. I never see a wizard robe these days, even though it's such an easy costume. I think Joanne killed the fandom.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The only ethical consumption of the original Harry Potter Movies is to watch it with the gleefully unauthorized Wizard People Dear Reader soundtrack/overdub.

Anyway, we were at a bar and were getting a good laugh at a guy who was playing pool all by himself while wearing a hoody over his hat, sunglasses under that and headphones on the outside of all of it. So we started riffing on "What could he possibly be listening to?". Someone who I don't think was me said that he was listening to a book on tape of Harry Potter. And out came the Wizard People narrator. I joked that night that I was going to rush home and record an entire misinformed book on tape of The Sorcerer's Stone, because I had not and have not ever read any Harry Potter books. Once I started making notes for it I realized that an audio track alone could get boring, so I decided to sync it with the movie. Then I took a week or two and made the damn thing. I love it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizard_People,_Dear_Reader

https://archive.org/details/wizard-people/

[–] Zebrafive@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I've always found Harry Potter universe to be quite campy. But I also never got into Lord of the Rings and thought Game of Thrones was awful so my opinion on television media may not be average or popular.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Lord of the Rings is second to none. The amount of development that went into it is staggering. It’s as grand and epic as any of the ancient works of mythology, and that’s what it was intended to be.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] Zebrafive@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah I get it and I dont deny that. Having never read the books though, I find the movies to be somewhat difficult to follow and with the exception (probably) of the first movie, I simply dont find them memorable or ranked high in my own mind as something I want to re watch.

[–] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

The story in the movie was good but lacked the ethereal fae quality and a lot of the quiet beauty in the book.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I highly recommend the books, if you can find time to read. I know a lot of people have trouble settling down to read these days (myself included). I wish I read more!

[–] Zebrafive@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Time to read yes

For me its the attention amd focused I've got time, just not tje attention and motivation (I fantasize but procrastinate)

I have been the 3rd or 4th dune book for about a year now (I have been on the last 50 pages or so for probably 6 montjs)

I have resd the first half or so of Don Quixote about 3 times

I habe now started to read Herodotus Histories for the 2nd time (didn't finish last time stopped around half way thru Book 2)

And I made the (fortuitous?) mistake of starting Hitch hikers Guide to the galaxy twice now and I did really enjoy it right off the bat, so that one might rise to the top of the list lol

I have also begun reading Amadis of Gaul due to interest in Medeival Chicalry novels and I've yet to finish King Arthur (Mark Twain) whereat I only have maybe 100pgs left. (Not a good book, TBH but it gives some background to Quixote as does Amadis of Gaul

LOTR is definitely also in this ridiculous list of want to reads. As is

Divine Comedy Aeneid Decameron Pilgrims Progress Infinite Jest Grapes of Wrath Something by Ishiguro Metamorphosis etc etc etc

I should make a post about this so.I can properly.vent instead of 'hijacking comments'

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 1 points 18 hours ago

Divine Comedy

Get yourself a quality translation, mine was kinda ass, don't remember whose it was though.

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 8 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

I'm so over HP. It was a popular book decades ago. I'm 41 (5 years older than the first HP actor) and I remember the "controversy" over the fourth book being so much longer than the others. I've read many other books since then that were better.

If you want grown up magic school stories check out The Magicians. One of the rare cases where the show is better than the books.

[–] CaptSneeze@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I’m a massive fan of the audiobook versions of the Magicians series, which I consider to be among the best narration performances from the hundreds of audiobooks I’ve listened to. I gave up on the tv series halfway through episode 1. Should I give it another shot?

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's different, it's more of an ensemble show whereas the books are more Quentins story. It got a bit silly towards the end but it was still a fun watch. I suggested it to my BF (huge Buffy fan, mild HP fan) he binged the whole thing in a week.

Sometimes you bounce off shows the first time. It isn't a faithful retelling of the books but it's got most of the major notes.

[–] CaptSneeze@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago
[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If you're looking for an adult novel about English magicians (and you looove lore dumping), read Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell you're gonna thank me on that one.

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[–] SilverFlame@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The Magicians is a book series!?

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago

Yep. Three books by Lev Grossman. They focus more on Quentin, the show features the other characters more.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Kingkiller Chronicles is a good one. Though who knows if he'll ever finish it.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago

No this series deserves to be boycotted simply because he refuses to finish it. Authors should never ever start a series that requires an ending if they haven't already sketched out that ending.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

Wait a minute, I always fucking hated Harry Potter!

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago

I prefer Michael Rosen's poetry. Seriously!

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

🏴‍☠️

Edit, I realize IDGAF.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Imagine being an adult and still caring about Harry Potter.

Read some books written for adults.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

just like with star trek and Paramount, you cant be ethical and support ellison, just because star trek is on it too and its a"progressive show", and besides the 3 nutrek shows now cancelled seems to lean more of authortarian nature instead of a progressive one like old trek.

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