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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 hour ago

As a hobbyist electronic musician with two decades of experience and also a really nice home theater system, I can confirm that this is accurate.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago

I have said that same thing about albums. Some people seem to collect records, I collect music. I don’t care if that vinyl/CD/cassette is rare or not. I just want to hear music that I enjoy. That’s why I don’t want to pay high prices from it.

[–] jeniferariza@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

This hurts because it’s kinda true… chasing perfect sound instead of just enjoying the music 😅

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

You can make any audiophile claim your system now sounds better by futzing around behind it for a while and claiming that you installed a "polarity aligned non-hertzian oscilation dampener" or whatever but in reality make no alterations other than turning the volume up one notch.

This is a well documented phenomenon, and reproducible with almost 100% accuracy. It turns out that humans are, objectively speaking, tin-eared gits. This expressly includes audiophiles.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Sell more cables to those people.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I actually think thats fine.

the problem starts when they thkink everyone else is doing it wrong.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Or when they help phone manufacturers enshittifying phones. They're the reason, why the "integrated DACs are too noisy" argument exists, and then they're telling you that unless you're willing to spend $500 on an audiophile DAC, $1000 on an external headphone amplifier, and $8000 on an audiophile-grade headphone, you'll be fine with cheap airpods.

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ugh yeah i just bought a dac just to do something that i was doing back in 2005 (plugin my headset into m'y phone)

I at least hope the sound is better

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

It's just an opportunity for opportunists to sell even cheaper DACs, while the ones who wanted better DACs could have still plugged a USB into their phone or used bluetooth.

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Whenever anyone asks for a quick get rich scheme I always tell them either Psychic stuff or Audio. 😂

[–] Sv443@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Anyone ever try combining both to make a gold-plated amethyst fiber toslink cable for $25000 that wards off 5G interference?

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago
[–] Soulg@ani.social 3 points 5 hours ago

There was the 5g protection ointment people were selling at the start of covid lol

[–] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago
[–] weaselsrippedmyflesh@piefed.social 23 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Audiophiles get a lot of shit outside their little online dens and it's always the same cable memes everywhere (that's not even the gear most people sell their kidneys for, afaik), but if you're one and you have a shred of self-awareness, this kinda makes ya laugh out loud.

[–] Angrydeuce@lemmy.world 29 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

When I was in high school, late 90s, I dated a chick whose mom worked in a bakery. She started work at like 2AM and for some reason I don't remember, my gf had to go there and she asked me to go with her...sure fuck it (we pretty much ran free back then, different time) and we went down there. About a half dozen middle-aged women making batter and dough and whatever they did and their boss, the bakery's owner.

He was in his early 40s, and was like the love child of David Lee Roth and Otto the bus driver from The Simpsons. Cargo shorts, dirty sneakers, Motley Crue tshirt with a blond curly mullet and an earring in one ear. For being 2 in the morning he was wide eyed and he practically exploded as soon as I walked in the door "HEY MAN HOWS IT GOING?! WELCOME TO MY BAKERY!! YOU LIKE MUSIC?! WHAT KIND OF MUSIC DO YOU LIKE?! WANT TO SEE SOMETHING?!" I was honestly on the edge of fight or flight for a moment but despite the coke or just how fuckin excited he was to have a visitor, he seemed safe, so I was like "Yeah sure, what's up?"

Leads me back to the far corner of the bakery to his office. There are speakers fucking everywhere. In his office he has racks and racks of high end stereo equipment, and he immediately launches into all this technical detail about the setup that I'm just nodding through...."SO THE SIGNAL COMES DOWN HERE THROUGH THIS SPECIAL CABLES...100 BUCKS A FOOT BUT ITS SO WORTH IT...THIS TAKES THE SIGNAL AND MUXES IT WITH THE AMPLIFIER THAN PIPES IT TO THE FLUX CAPACITOR THEN..." and eventually he wraps up and says "CHECK THIS OUT!!!"

Pulls out one of those gold, high bitrate CDs, Peter Gabriel's So, slots it into a CD player that by itself was bigger and more complicated looking than my whole stereo at home with so many knobs and shit, and cranks it to what he called about 30%. Lights blinking, animated EQs, level meters at the ready...

Red Rain kicks in and literally takes my breath away, not just in awe, but I mean the goddamn bass was so heavy and so crystal clear that it disrupted the airflow in the entire bakery. The volume was beyond screaming over, it was like you were standing on fucking stage in an arena next to the amps, but not only was it ear-shatteringly loud, it was crystal clear. Like the level of detail and fidelity in the recording broadcasted all these little human moments in the playing that I never had heard before and my mom pretty much blasted that record all the time for most of the tail end of the 80s. After a minute of Red Rain he skips to track two, Sledgehammer and holy shit, that bass riff on that system...felt like when you're standing waist deep in the ocean and a wave comes up with enough force to rock you on your feet before you recover.

And through all this, these women in the bakery just doing their thing, not a care in the world. Clearly a common occurrence there, 2 oclock in the morning, deep in an industrial area with nobody for miles around, this dude and his like $100,000+ stereo and him just running around like a madman making whatever the hell they were making.

Anyways, definitely nothing I would ever spend that kind of money on, but man, it was hard as hell to go back home to my shitty $20 headphones and my discman after hearing what $100k worth of high end stereo equipment sounds like lol

Man, I love these kinds of stories, and I just love hearing about that feeling of wonder in those moments where the music you thought you knew just clicks like it's the first time you're hearing it. That's what it's all about. Made me want to play that Peter Gabriel album, too, after reading your tale!

That's how they get you down the rabbit hole, though, when you come back home to your modest setup and you miss the stuff you didn't know was there to begin with.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 9 points 13 hours ago

Dudes living the dream with a $100K stereo, a kilo of cocaine, and all the pastries he can eat. Not a bad life, I gotta say.

[–] DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think anyone with self awareness or love for sound or music would call themselves an audiophile tbf.

[–] relianceschool@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They might not self-identify as an audiophile, but they're definitely on the gradient. At high (and even medium) levels of the game, musicians, producers, and mix/mastering engineers are often using >$5K headphones and >$30K speaker setups, and that's not to mention the cost of building & treating the studio.

These are people with deep love for music, and many of these same people have high-end listening systems at home as well. I've had the joy of listening to some really nice setups, and it's definitely hard going back to my home stereo afterwards.

Where I think it veers off into pseudoscience is once you get into the stratosphere of >$100K setups. At that point it's marginal (often indiscernible) gains that are exclusively marketed to people with money to burn. People who just want to know they're getting the absolute best of the best, regardless of whether they can tell the difference. There's a lot more marketing than reality at that level.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

$5000 headphones is pseudoscience territory.

$30k for a speaker setup is reasonable for a professional recording/mixing/mastering studio, or slightly excessive for a hobbyist (but still more or less within reason).

$100k+ could "reasonably" happen if you're mastering for a complex Dolby Atmos system, but even then it's pretty excessive. And we're likely talking about mixing audio for movies rather than just music at that point.

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yea i bought a hifi amplifier for 50 bucks at the pawnshop and a pair of speaker from the fleamarket. It works great

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

15-20 year old hifi is the sweet spot for me, $100-200 for what would've been a couple thousand in today's dollars at MSRP. At that point, room/placement and source matter way more than going up a tier

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah that's what i spent for the whole thing. Plus 200 for a home cinema subwoofer that my neighbors just love

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 13 hours ago

I like listening to my equipment with https://soffmimuhod.bandcamp.com/

[–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I haven't fact-checked whether this quote is legit attributable to Alan Parsons but considering his production mastering pedigree it's believable. My dad used to sell audiophile equipment in the 80's and he would play Dark Side of the Moon and Alan Parsons Project to show off their hi-fi equipment. He said customers would put on their lower-quality records and it wouldn't sound as good (obviously), making their gear a harder sell.

EDIT: Parsons didn't say this, a web commenter did on an article about an interview with Parsons:

https://boingboing.net/2012/02/10/alan-parsons-on-audiophiles.html

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Alan Parsons was the sound engineer on Dark Side of the Moon, AND Abbey Road.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

He was an engineering assistant on Abbey Road, but led the audio engineering of Dark Side.

[–] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I think we can trust Alan Parsons. The dude put a frickin laser on the moon!

[–] ccunix@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Whatever

He didn't manage to get one on a frickin' shark's head though did he!

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 16 hours ago

Ahh yes. The Alan Parsons’ Project.

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