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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

You know that parable about the pastor on the church roof during a flood and ignoring all help because god would save him until he dies and god is like wtf did you turn away all my help...

Works really well with climate change too and us ignoring all his help to help prevent the catastrophe it is/will cause.

[–] TheseusNow@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Ignorance is bliss" People, not all but many, want religion because it teaches them all they have to do is believe and pray to a God and everything will be well. That even when things are bad, that they just need to roll with it because there is a plan that they are part of and they should not lose faith. That is all and it is simple. It also gives certain groups, genders, ethnicities power over others, which makes them feel special and entitled.

When you start to give a person with this kind of faith facts and logic that is contrary to what they have been told it angers them because it scares them. It angers them because it tells them they aren't entitled and they cant keep on with their actions because there will be consequences. They like propaganda that says "all is well, dont listen to those scary fake facts." This comforts them.

Those people want to stay feeling entitled, believing they are special, that their actions cause no harm, and stay in blissfull ignorance.

Science is not faith based. It is empirical and truths can be observed and proven. Yes there are hypothesis yet to be proven, but they are based on facts that suggest they may be true. Religions simply require faith with no proof what you are believing in is true.

Science will not dispell any spirtuality there is in the universe but it will eventually tear down most religions. We are very likely not the only living organisms in the universe, yet most religions depict Gods that resemble us. This is as bad as thinking the Earth is the center of the solar system, which is why it was considered blasphemous when the idea was first introduced that it was not.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

The good thing about science is that it doesn't require faith.

This idiot should never be allowed a position of responsibility. He'll do what the voices in his head tell him to do, not what's proven to be effective.

[–] darkmogool@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago
[–] jtrek@startrek.website 14 points 1 day ago

A Minnesota Republican lawmaker has dismissed climate change concerns by declaring that her faith is in Jesus Christ rather than scientists. Rep Mary Franson, a long-serving member of the Minnesota House, made the comments during a committee hearing last week.

Mary Franson is not fit to hold office and should be removed.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 88 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (17 children)

I never understood why people claim to not have "faith" in Science. Science doesn't want anyone's faith. It wants facts, it wants proof, it wants repeatability.

Religion and Science should not be in conflict. Science gives us powerful tools to explain the Universe, but cannot explain what cannot be observed. If you believe in a higher power, there is plenty of room for that higher power to operate outside of what Science can tell us.

People who claim to not have "faith" in Science are just ignorant. Science will keep going, though, no matter what they believe.

[–] fierysparrow89@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

Organized religion conditions people not to think but to view everything through the lens of their dogmas. Faith (unquestioned acceptance of prescribed believes) being nr 1. May never occur to them that the scientific method does not require said unquestioned acceptance.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Religion and science is in conflict because they're antithetical to each other.

Science demands that all you "believe in", all your statements, derivations, conclusions, explanations, be based on fact - and if the supporting information changes, so do your statements/derivations/conclusions/explanations. Essentially, you write the book based on observations, and if the observed things change, so does the book.

Religion is the other way around. All your observations, all your conclusions, etc., must bow to the book first. Anything that doesn't fit the book is the work of the devil, thus bad.

There's no place for inconsistencies, for reiteration of the book (let alone rewriting - unless it's officially approved ofc), it is the ultimate source of truth, unchanging and ever-existing.

Of course you then get denominations that consider the Bible not the word of God but the human-transcribed (thus faulty) version of the word, therefore are much more flexible on how things are interpreted, but that still doesn't allow science to co-exist with religion when the latter can be utilised to invalidate a fact-based system.

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[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Faith that those cheques from the oil industry will keep arriving.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Religion is a cancer, and I'm so fucking tired of the apologetics from my fellow leftists on it.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the behavior why I think that religion should, and one day will be classified as a mental illness

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The problem I've been realizing over the last few years is that while I have no need for religion myself, there are a lot of "if there wasn't a god, why doesn't everyone go around killing each other all the time" types out there. Things might be even worse if religion wasn't there to make those ones control themselves.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 11 points 1 day ago

It's truly terrifying. "If there's no hell, what's stopping you from raping and murdering."

Nothing. I rape and murder as much as I want to, but incidentally that amount is zero.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The truthism that there's no morality without Jesus is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard and it's an absolute testament to the lack of empathy and intelligence of religious people

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 points 1 day ago

If religion is really what stops these people, then religion is covering for mental illness that ought to be addressed instead of hidden away in churches.

[–] phar@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember that time Jesus said fuck the planet, and also fuck your neighbor over? Peppridge Farm remembers

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When you assume Jesus agrees with all your personal decisions, you don’t need to worry about what the other side thinks.

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[–] hayvan@piefed.world 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I wish global warming wasn't global.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

Wouldn't that be amazing? The countries that do it to themselves suffer. Not the ones who didn't.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s not globally uniform. India is getting completely fucked, meanwhile most of the US just has to wait and see why happens to Florida this year.

[–] Patrikvo@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

To be fair, the US got Trump and co, so maybe India is getting the better deal. Even the Maldives are going to be more liveable the the US.

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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago

"and he will put to ruin those ruining the earth"

  • actual bible quote

If they could read, they would be very upset

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People like that should be disqualified from any position of power.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

They should be housed in special units where they are prevented from doing harm to other people.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 1 day ago

Sounds like these lawmakers should be forced to dismiss gravity concerns right until they can't.

[–] Didntdoit71@feddit.online 15 points 1 day ago

Fuck the Guardians Of Pedophiles.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Another drooler who doesn't understand what science is.

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And how do you think Jesus would handle climate change from Heaven?

Maybe...by encouraging human beings to solve the problem that humans created? The one thing she refuses to do?

The Parable of the Drowning Man

A storm descends on a small town, and the downpour soon turns into a flood. As the waters rise, the local preacher kneels in prayer on the church porch, surrounded by water. By and by, one of the townsfolk comes up the street in a canoe.

"Better get in, Preacher. The waters are rising fast".

"No," says the preacher. "I have faith in the Lord. He will save me".

Still the waters rise. Now the preacher is up on the balcony, wringing his hands in supplication, when another guy zips up in a motorboat.

"Come on, Preacher. We need to get you out of here. The levee's gonna break any minute".

Once again, the preacher is unmoved. "I shall remain. The Lord will see me through".

After a while the levee breaks, and the flood rushes over the church until only the steeple remains above water. The preacher is up there, clinging to the cross, when a helicopter descends out of the clouds, and a state trooper calls down to him through a megaphone.

"Grab the ladder, Preacher. This is your last chance".

Once again, the preacher insists the Lord will deliver him.

And, predictably, he drowns.

A pious man, the preacher goes to heaven. After a while he gets an interview with God, and he asks the Almighty, "Lord, I had unwavering faith in you. Why didn't you deliver me from that flood?"

God shakes his head. "What did you want from me? I sent you two boats and a helicopter!"

[–] bilgamesch@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Love each other. Love god. Both are about loving God‘s creation - if you‘re into that kind of stuff.

That‘s the main quest in christianity - and as far as I‘m aware in all other religions. So „dismissing Climate change concerns“ because you don‘t want to trust people who are knowledgable about the matter, at least from my agnostic point of view, is about as contrary to those beliefs as it can get. Because you‘re so superstitious that you can‘t acknowledge the fact you might be biased, you might be uninformed, you don‘t understand, that you simply assume everyone else must be stupid or evil.

That guy they pretend to love so much is said to have said: „ Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?“.

But they comfortably leave out all the parts in the Bible that are purely about self-reflection, self-awareness and self-knowledge.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“I sent two row boats and a helicopter for you…”

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Okay[^1], but did JC got animated again to tell you Climate Change is a hoax?

[^1]: Not actually okay

[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

When she stands in her front lawn in Minnesota and waves her arms, waiting for Jebus to carry her to Washington (because aircraft=science=bad), we know who to follow.

Our leaders are so fucking stupid.

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Why don't you listen to the voices in my head, why don't you have voices in your head, why are you telling me to pay attention to results of experiments and recorded experiences instead of the voices inside the head of pre-print peoples?

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What the hell does Jesus have to do with climate change?

[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip 27 points 2 days ago

absolutely nothing, but it doesn't matter. when your voter base is a bunch of befuddled knuckle dragging fucking morons, all you have to do to control their behavior is imply that trusting experts means you don't love jesus, and you're going to hell for it.

they lap it up like hogs at the trough

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[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

Goddamn death cult

[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 16 points 2 days ago

Some people do be telling on themselves.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's like saying "I'm putting all my money into crypto-currency".

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's exactly like that.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do they realize that without the foundation of science, there aren't any advances in engineering? I'd love to see all MAGAs required to live like the Amish. Put your money where your mouth is.

[–] zueski@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

Even the Amish have significant technology

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Remember it's not just faith, it's the "right" faith. Tell them that their faith is in the Allah and watch them freak out.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah let's believe the people who have been consistently wrong for millennia over the ones that have been provably right countless times.

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Another reason why the US is in rapid decline. Luckily now all the other nations in the world are hiring all the scientists. After 4 years of this regime and that whale fucker in charge of the department of health, there will be a completely different dogma to the real science.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Ok if there is a sky daddy what do you think he's gonna do when he sees what you did to his creation.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Blind faith is a mental illness.

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