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[–] massacre@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago
[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 29 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Reopening Strait of Hormuz Not Vital to Ending Iran War

Then may I ask what is exactly?

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You won't know secret third thing, it goes to another war in Canada.

[–] knotRyder@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

You leave Canada out of this we're doing our best to stay out ourselves

[–] J92@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

Retaining Saigon not vital to ending the Vietnam war.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is Trump going to say that Iran agreed to his terms without any proof? Is he going to bomb them again for not respecting the terms they agreed to in his mind?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago

You think presidents do this? Just go on Truth Social and post lies?

[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 15 points 23 hours ago

That's been his MO every Monday for the past 4 Mondays

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 33 points 1 day ago

So let me get this straight: You went to war to make things worse?

Yeah, for MAGA, that tracks.

[–] Tarambor@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

TACO Trump Tuesday strikes again. Trump makes threats, those he's threatening laugh at him, mock him and ignore the deadline, Trump chickens out and tries to make up something else to hide the fact he's failed.

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[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

He really doesnt understand the global markets are interconnected and prices rising on inputs to American products due to logistics costs are the least of our worries.

[–] tacoplease@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Dumbest student in business school, waddaya expect?

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 24 points 23 hours ago

He really doesnt understand

ima stop you there only because anything after is extraneous. ;-)

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 day ago (14 children)

The MAGA US needs to lose this one.

[–] Tarambor@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Trump already has lost. There's a Khomeni in charge of the country who is even more hardline than the last with a long queue of replacements should he get killed, they've not surrendered, they're not negotiating and they're only letting through ships they choose to. They're still firing missiles at every Arab nation with a US base in it as well as at Israel. They're still selling their oil. And now the Iran supported Houtis in Yemen have kicked off too, also lobbing missiles at Israel and threatening closing off the Bab al Mandab Strait which is the access to the Red Sea that'll cut off access to the western oil pipelines Saudi Arabia has.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

5D chess. It's all part of the plan. . . or something. Oh look - a scary immigrant!

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Done and done. This was admitting defeat.

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[–] zd9@lemmy.world 153 points 1 day ago (5 children)

“The full reopening of the Strait is something the Administration is working towards, but the core objectives of the operation have been clearly defined for the American people by the Commander in Chief,” Leavitt said.

No the fuck they haven't. He doesn't even know himself other than whatever Israel said to do, otherwise they'll release the videos of him raping children.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

When those videos hit the web, everyone will know the people who supported him. We will never let them forget, nor will we let others be ignorant of what they did.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know, I’m not even sure I’ve heard a straight line about what exactly they’re trying to do and what precipitated starting the war.

There’s been talk about wanting regime change and halting the Iranian nuclear program. But both of those things have been around for what, like 20 years? And the nuclear deal was being worked out over a decade age before trump threw a fit and ripped it up.

Most wars have a very clear “they did this to us so we have to do this to them in order to secure… blah blah blah.” But with Iran we didn’t really get that. I just woke up one day and the headlines were “surprise, he started another war in the Middle East, checkout this new TikTok trend”

At least bush had the intelligence to lie about WMDs. Trump just threw a fit and seems hell bent on collapsing the global economy for no reason other than the US hasn’t been bombing as many brown people as it once did.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Trump just threw a fit and seems hell bent on collapsing the global economy for no reason other than the US hasn’t been bombing as many brown people as it once did.

I don't think it's just because "brown people bad". I think his goal is to crash the global economy so he and his buddies (controllers) such as Miller, Vought, Kevin Roberts, Thiel, Andreeson, Musk, aka the technofascists (a la Curtis Yarvin), can get their hands in the system from the ground up to extract even more value from everyone and further control pretty much all of society.

It really sounds crazy, but they are very vocal about it. Please read, save, and share this info from vcinfodocs.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

well that is a relief... now all the US service men being sent to the meat grinder will die to attempt to reopen a Strait that is not even vital to the war effort

[–] tacoplease@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

As sacrifice to the great state of Israel

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (5 children)

If you spend billions and end up with that path blocked, I don't think you can say you "won".

Of course you can finish the war capitulating or losing too.

I'm starting to think either Trump or his acolytes don't really think.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

you can say you "won".

He didn't say it, he declared it!

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[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

The guy throwing military parades for himself capitulates and leaves Europe to clean up the mess. Much Wow

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Right, right... Now, about all that child rape...

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 3 points 14 hours ago

Hit 'em with the "you're still talking about that?"

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

"uhhhh....ummmmm.....well......ya see like I said I can take Cuba. I think they will let me."

[–] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 88 points 1 day ago (7 children)

This could literally be mentioned in the historical annals of idiotic military blunders in history.

Hey Republicans lurking on here, way to fucking go guys. You're so fucking stupid that you collapsed our reputation in the world and now we're a fucking laughing stock and because of your seemingly infinite level of abject idiocy, we now are legitimately in a national security crisis because of this wanton waste of our national defense assets.

Great fucking job, morons. Take a fucking bow.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

Some have said that when this war is over, it will be a different world.
But that is not the whole truth, because it is already a different world. The image of the invincible US military is in ruins. This war with Iran can turn out to be nearly as disastrous for USA as the Russian war against Ukraine is to Russia.

Zelenskyy has been on a charm tour to the Arab countries, and offered help to defend against the Iranian attacks, that USA has failed to defend against. And hopefully this will result in significant Arab investments in Ukrainian industries.
These investments are most likely to be drawn from US investments.
When the Ukraine war is over, Ukraine will very quickly become member of EU. And Ukraine will prosper fast with strong know how, and a strong will and help to rebuild after the war.
As a member of EU, the enormous goodwill and prestige Ukraine has earned, will benefit EU too. And EU will be stronger than ever. While USA risk to lose the petro dollar because they fucked up in the middle east.

USA is not losing the war in Iran, because it's already lost. Unfortunately for USA, there is no graceful exit, so chances are that USA will escalate instead. But that will only make it worse for USA. With even more losses for USA in lives money and prestige.

The big immediate winner is of course China, but EU might actually also win from this in the long run. And the sure loser is USA.
Even Iran will benefit, the oil export sanctions against them have already been lifted, and they will keep control of the Hormuz strait.
A new deal between USA and Iran will be on Iranian terms not American.

Funny how this was predicted 2 years ago?

China's Nostradamus" Made 3 Trump Predictions In 2024. 2 Already Came True

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/who-is-jiang-xueqin-professor-behind-viral-trump-iran-prediction-11170722

The headline is misleading though, because USA has already lost the war, so all 3 came true.
I actually went back and watched the original video, and it's spot on, there can be no doubt about the accuracy of his prediction.

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[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool we’ve entered the, “I don’t want it anyway” phase of this bullshit. not sure where this places us in the timeline, but we all know the last step is hyping the massive victory of fixing the problem created by the administration.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Narcissist's Prayer:

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal. <-- We are here
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago
[–] Foni@piefed.zip 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If he doesn't open it within a couple of months at most, the bulk of oil is going to start being traded in yuan (it's already starting to happen) the gulf states are going to start liquidating their U.S. debt and the investments they've made across the global economy. The problem could spiral out of control really fast. The guy's a total idiot, but I assume they've explained it to him with little cartoons or something and he's finally understood that this time he can't just walk away and claim he won

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