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[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Github users right now: I don't care, I'll depend on it harder now!

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 185 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Meanwhile, over at Codeberg: https://status.codeberg.org/

They achieve all of this using 100% open-source infrastructure. If I remember correctly, it's all running on Codeberg-owned hardware as well, not some rented servers.

https://codeberg.org/about

[–] sznowicki@lemmy.world 145 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They were down for like entire day once because they moved that server to a new location by train. In a backpack.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 64 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am disappointed. A few servers have been moved via train and stayed online. Codeberg should do better.

[–] toynbee@piefed.social 56 points 1 day ago (4 children)

A company at which I once worked built a functioning server into the frame of a motorcycle. It was after I left, so I'm not sure of the details, including whether it had to be plugged in; but regardless, they called it "the world's fastest server!" and I think that's pretty funny.

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[–] aarmea@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

If that was their only downtime that year, that would have resulted in 99.7% uptime.

[–] Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Migrations should always incur downtime

"Hey we're migrating, take a break for a week"

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[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To be fair the number of users they serve is probably orders of magnitudes lower.

To be fair MS makes orders of magnitude more money and has the benefit of operations at scale. Whereas codeberg's operational budget for 2025 was 100k euro and they still need to deal with DDoS and bot scraping. They also were running off a single server up until sept'25 when they had two donated hardware services which are now hooked up to make a 3 node ceph cluster.

[–] bort@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

more users means, they should do much better than the ones with less users (assuming each user is worth the same/requires same infra).

at the worst case, a bigger org could just copy paste a smaller orgs system a couple times to get the exact same uptime, with same budget per user*. The benefit of bigger orgs is, that they can consolidate these separate system a big system that is more stable AND costs less. If this wasn't true, we wouldn't have big orgs in the first place**.

* yes, it is NOT the same budget for the users. You can't JUST copy paste the system, you'd also need to think how you split it up. I know there are a million little things to nitpick here, but this can all be solved somewhat easily, and they wont change the overall argument.

** regulatory capture, lobbying, corruption and creating a monopoly could also be consider aspects of "consolidating into a bigger system". This doesn't mean why MS shouldn't be able to be better, it just explains why they aren't better.

[–] bort@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 32 points 1 day ago (5 children)

yeah, but it's microsoft. what's the longest you've gone without rebooting windows? a couple days? It stands to reason.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

Win95, maybe

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Man when was the last time you used Windows? The regular restart criticism hilariously outdated

My work computer has mandatory updates from IT like every 2 weeks but when I ran Windows on my own PC, I'd go months without restarting. I've restarted my months-old Fedora install more times than that

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago

Win10 was stable, but Win11 was back into the reboot often mode for a while. Not sure if it has gotten better.

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Outing yourself as a Windows abstainer isn't the worst thing, I guess.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but it's like saying the iPhone sucks because it doesn't have copy and paste lol

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

IPhones dont have copy and paste???

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They didn't at launch. It was a perk of Android at the time

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

It was bigger than copy/paste really, there were no contextual menus at all yet. So no place to stick the commands.

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[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've had uptimes over 1000 days on some of my air gapped linux and BSD machines. Windows never liked going more than month or two, and now unless you turn off automatic updates you never get close to that wall.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I and strongly against windows and what microsoft is doing, But you are absolutely correct. If you stick to a build/update that's not trying to brick your NVME, windows desktop uptime is very reasonable.

We're not scoping on stability of thier updates, or the ability to update, just uptime on a run of the mill patched version, it goes as long as you'd need it to for most people.

Now, my linux desktop can go for very very long stretches without updates/reboots if I cared to do it. but windows 11 isn't bad in the way that 95, 98, 2000 were. I'd even argue that win10 was more stable or at the very least had far less breaking issues.

[–] tehbilly@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Personally? Months. Regularly weeks. About the same as my servers. Uptime on a single machine isn't a metric of anything meaningful.

That said, GitHub ain't a single machine and the reliability issues are definitely not a good look.

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[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 day ago

Lol I legit thought

whoa a gel electrophoresis meme, I wonder if anyone recognises the sequence.

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 day ago

Worst sorting algorithm ever.

[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 82 points 1 day ago (4 children)

We're watching the old internet fall apart.

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

We're watching Microsoft ruin another company. Its like if EA or IBM buys something, its enshittified and rent seeking occurs for shareholders.

Once this Windows monopoly has passed due to the abysmal quality it will hopefully be over, and hopefully AI helps remove barriers to file portability to hasten their demise.

I think that's how a lot of the internet is dying right now because buying an IP then wringing every drop of value out of its dying corpse before dropping it is a good way to make money right now. This is very much a thing that happens outside of the internet too, and happened long before the internet existed. I think one of the cool things about the internet is how quickly word can spread about this kind of compromised company / product / whatever thing, though I think we need to get better at it. I'm not exactly sure how to accomplish that, it seems like an overwhelming problem, but I think about it a lot.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 7 points 1 day ago

I REALLY hope MS crashes and burns. They're a shitstain company, and the shit Gates did as CEO was atrocious.

[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It never occurred to me before now but from here on out, there will probably always be some old part of the internet, crumbling and sparse, moldering and broken, populated by far fewer denizens than it was designed for.

I wonder if that'll just be the ever-fading "old folks" internet.

[–] plateee@piefed.social 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We are Flowers for Algernoning our technology.

If I use my phone (not android Auto), I can no longer say, "Navigate to ". It flat out does not work.

Navigate to Local Bakery Xyz.

I'm sorry I can't do that.

(It tries to open the non-existent app for the local bakery).

If I'm in the car that has android auto, it refuses to let me type while in drive (fair enough) and it recognizes the "Navigate to..." Instructions, but if I click on the Maps nav bar for voice and say my destination (it literally says, no text while driving speak your destination)... It tries to open the app.

This shit used to work, it's getting actively dumber.

This morning I got fed up and asked,

"Can I use you to navigate somewhere?"

Sure! Where would you like to go?

"Dutch Bros"

(Opens the Dutch Bros app)

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I once tried to ask my phone to set an alarm. It said it did.

I checked the app. No alarm set.

I tried again, but with a timer. It said it was set.

Again, nothing.

I gave up on digital assistants after that. They took them out back and shot them, and what we see now is their rotted corpse puppeted by Shareholder Value™️ gone wrong. This was 2022.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s like all companies forgot that reliability is a core feature…

"Users will completely understand the increased outages if we just eliminate the point-and-click UI that we've spent the last 30+ years getting them used to and instead give them a chat bot that they have to repeatedly type detailed instructions to for marginal results at best."

-- Vibe CEO's Everywhere

[–] ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 day ago

[vibe coding intensifies]

[–] obvs@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m colorblind, but I’m curious to know what is being represented here.

[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 73 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Server / service downtime. For a well managed company, you would expect these to be almost uniformly green, meaning that all servers are responding correctly almost all of the time. This graph has a lot of yellow and red, indicating severe instability in their services.

Not being able to keep servers running is something that typically happens to smaller companies that grow too fast for them to manage. Established companies are (or, IMO, should be...) expected to have near perfect (>99.99%) uptime, and this is indicative of some expertise loss for the company broadly.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

99.99%

TBF, no, established companies tend to have something between 99.9% and 99.99% of uptime. It only increases if the company is explicitly focused on it, at a large cost that usually needs to be paid by some customer.

But Github pretends to be one of those companies that focus on uptime. And it's also less than 99% right now. So yeah, the main point stands.

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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least their status bars are, presumably, somewhat honest. It's pretty common for the status server being used to track various Lemmy instances to show all green even when the site has clearly been down several hours or even for days.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 11 points 1 day ago

Probably pings the servers instead of checking web server works

[–] BasicallyHedgehog@feddit.uk 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/ offers a slightly more honest version with aggregate numbers

[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

90% uptime is abysmal

Any other company would be asked refunds from most clients

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LMAO 1 nine of reliability.

At one place I worked we had a service that had been part of an acquired company that, as far as I could tell, had no one responsible for maintaining it, and it either zero or almost zero users, so it would go down for weeks at a time before somebody noticed and did something about it, usually because it needed a security patch. To this day I have no idea why it wasn't shut down but AFAIK it's still out there causing problems for whoever works there now.

We came up with a bunch of ways to describe its uptime: a service has one fortnine of reliability if it stays up for at least one continuous fortnight of the year, for instance. An absolute nine is nine days per year. Fractional nines were invented: a "quarter nine" was 25% of 90%uptime, or 22.5% total uptime.

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